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Post by leeli on Aug 21, 2007 17:23:47 GMT 3
WOW! I think humanity(=huns) need to talk about Chinese occupation of the world! ;D |
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Post by Nomad (Daz) on Aug 23, 2007 0:30:43 GMT 3
I support Leeli.
China didn't care for steppes for centuries. They hardly cared for the silk road. Sending a caravan into steppes was expensive and dangarus. China had a cheaper trade route by sea. And for them the rest of the world were uncivil and had no value. China was a kingdom of heaven and the rest of the world bowed to them. Proof to that! Most of the Kingdoms were looking forward just to know that Chinese emperor knows of their existance. More over Chinese Emperor had his own problems within the kingdom. Except emperor in China were kings and dukes who were fighting each other and the emperor had to balance between them. Only Tan Dynasty crossed over the great wall and extended their will over steppies just to cover their ambitions and to eliminate the threat to their kingdom. Later in Uigurs gladly joined his majesty and took Chinese protectionship and were ruling steppes under the name of Chinese emperor. For that they recieved Gold and Weapons including taxfree trading. When in 1946 the Idea of East Turkistan occured the only nation who were acting passive were Uigurs. Communist Regim was only intrested in OIL that was found in that rigion and didn't care for other nationalities. But later Uigurs saw that everybody had their peace of pie and they were left outside. Thats their fault. The train has left the station. Now they blame us kazakh for not supporting them. Did they support us? In 1986 when we stood against Russian unjustice and fought for our rights to rule our own land what did Uigurs do?
They wrote a letter to Gorbachev the head of Soviet Union and said that we are racist and abuse them. They asked for autonomy from us. f**king traitors.
Tibetians! Well they have a sad history after Communist occupied them but before the occupation they were troublesom and a threat to China.
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Post by Temüjin on Aug 23, 2007 23:24:10 GMT 3
but the Tang were different, they were more liberal than other Chinese dynasties, thats why they were so sucessfull. usually China is too arrogant to care for people outside of their border, they think everyhting evolves around them. the silk route trade was i think more lucrative than the overseas trade with Indochina and Indonesia.
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Aug 30, 2007 21:24:49 GMT 3
Ugly Chinese propaganda everywhere, that is not good. That propaganda splitter is banned for all.
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Post by Verinen Paroni on Aug 31, 2007 15:56:19 GMT 3
Concerning whole issue, I have just one ponit to say.
Chinese themselves once made to reat wall for their northern-boder, so why they cannot all just live southside of that?
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Post by Temüjin on Aug 31, 2007 20:15:10 GMT 3
exactly.
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Post by arslan on Sept 6, 2007 6:16:52 GMT 3
Ugly Chinese propaganda everywhere, that is not good. That propaganda splitter is banned for all. Before blaming others in propaganda. You better show the good example first by freeing Kurds from your own "yoke." |
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Post by Verinen Paroni on Sept 6, 2007 14:45:08 GMT 3
Ugly Chinese propaganda everywhere, that is not good. That propaganda splitter is banned for all. Before blaming others in propaganda. You better show the good example first by freeing Kurds from your own "yoke." Freeing kurds??? If they will get own state, it will be similar like Somalia is now. Are you commie, btw? |
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Post by Temüjin on Sept 6, 2007 16:27:12 GMT 3
Before blaming others in propaganda. You better show the good example first by freeing Kurds from your own "yoke." the Turks here on the forum never claimed overlordship over Kurds, in fact in another thread here they have proposed to abandonen east Anatolia to Kurds to get ridd of them. |
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Post by arslan on Sept 6, 2007 23:36:51 GMT 3
Before blaming others in propaganda. You better show the good example first by freeing Kurds from your own "yoke." the Turks here on the forum never claimed overlordship over Kurds, in fact in another thread here they have proposed to abandonen east Anatolia to Kurds to get ridd of them. Good to know that |
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Post by arslan on Sept 6, 2007 23:38:11 GMT 3
Freeing kurds??? If they will get own state, it will be similar like Somalia is now. Are you commie, btw? It doesn't come to your mind that some Chinese can raise the same argument about the Eastern Turkestan. |
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Sept 7, 2007 0:49:39 GMT 3
Before blaming others in propaganda. You better show the good example first by freeing Kurds from your own "yoke." If you are ever going to post something like this again, you will be banned. This is a warning! |
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Post by arslan on Sept 7, 2007 1:01:11 GMT 3
Do whatever you want. You words bertray that your way of thinking is not very different from the actions of Chinese authorities suppressing any opinion which is different from their own.
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Sept 7, 2007 1:12:57 GMT 3
This forum is not the place for spreading kurdish propaganda. This forum is also not %100 democratic. All members know and obey this rule.
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Post by kokturk on Sept 9, 2007 9:52:42 GMT 3
Ugly Chinese propaganda everywhere, that is not good. That propaganda splitter is banned for all. Before blaming others in propaganda. You better show the good example first by freeing Kurds from your own "yoke." Read carefully Kurd! The Kurdish issue is very different from the Eastern Turkestan problem. Kurds are not a real nation and we did not occupy your lands. But China occupied the free state of East Turkestan. Kurds can be everything in Türkiye but Uygurs can not be in China. the Turks here on the forum never claimed overlordship over Kurds, in fact in another thread here they have proposed to abandonen east Anatolia to Kurds to get ridd of them. The only land given to the Kurds will be 2 meters under the ground. They can go anywhere they want, but no independent state will be founded on our lands. |
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