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Post by erdene on Nov 24, 2006 2:29:57 GMT 3
Qi Zhougyi: is he the last descendent of Chinggis Khaan??? Or is it just a Chinese propaganda??? Anyone know anything about him and why he claims he is the descendent of Chinggis Khaan???
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Post by Saran on Nov 24, 2006 2:54:33 GMT 3
Qi Zhougyi: is he the last descendent of Chinggis Khaan??? Or is it just a Chinese propaganda??? Anyone know anything about him and why he claims he is the descendent of Chinggis Khaan??? The last descendents of Chinggis Khaan were all assasinated or killed in the 1930s . This old man doesn't look Mongolian at all, it's just another propoganda by the Chinese
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Post by suren911 on Nov 24, 2006 6:55:07 GMT 3
^That man could be real or a fad. Who knows. I just need to talk to him for 5 minutes and I'll tell you if he's real or not Even Steven Segal (he's a white guy with an Asian fetish) claims to be descendent of Genghis Khan and wanted to make a movie starring himself as the great Khan. My gag reflexes were acting pretty badly when I read the news. There are many descendents of Genghis Khan today. I know a girl with the lastname Borjiged (modern variants include Borjigin). Descendents of his clan are few in numbers, but they still exist.
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Post by Saran on Nov 24, 2006 11:03:19 GMT 3
^Oh you should talk to him then, Suren. I dun really understand that Segal guy, he came to Mongolia a few years ago with his "brilliant" ideas of making a Chinggis movie. But he finally is making the movie with the Kazaks or the Chinese (need to check, I guess it was the Kazakhs) ;D .
We don't take our clan name as last names in Mongolia. Where is Borjiged from? Sounds very interesting. My paternal side's held the tribe name "Hiad Borjigin" (Temujin's tribe) and my grandpa's father was a Taij and a very intelligent man and was shot in the head in the 1930s Stalinist purge . I don't know if he really was from the royal family, I want to ask someone but all the elders of the family passed away. And during the communist time, if you were from a family of taij, rich or monks, you had to hide it as best as you can. There was another big massacre in Mongolia in early XX century during the last years of VIII Bogd Khaan and the early years of the People's Communist government. Many Taij (title of man, who's from Chinggis family) people holding important positions in the government were assasinated and they say it was almost the end of Chinggis family. But I also have heard of many people claiming to be descendents of the Great Khan in Inner Mongolia. If they really are, it's great!
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Post by Atabeg on Nov 24, 2006 13:19:54 GMT 3
Last descent Last descent isn't Genghis khan the man who responisble for % of the world population.
Half central asia has his genes(mabey i exagerate;D)but still alot
With 16 million living men carrying his Y-chromosome, Genghis Khan had about 800,000 times the reproductive success of the average man of his age.
the Legacy continues
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Post by Verinen Paroni on Nov 24, 2006 15:26:52 GMT 3
What about "Russian" nobility?
Because it is the fact that Golden Orda and Moscowites married each others...
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Nov 24, 2006 20:18:09 GMT 3
The descendents of he Crimean Giray khan family still exists as far as I know. Of course there are unofficial descendents of Chinggis Khan (numbered around 16 million in Asia), according to a theory ;D
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Post by Verinen Paroni on Nov 24, 2006 20:24:24 GMT 3
The descendents of he Crimean Giray khan family still exists as far as I know. Of course there are unofficial descendents of Chinggis Khan (numbered around 16 million in Asia), according to a theory ;D I have read also that Windsors in UK are his descendants...
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Nov 24, 2006 21:37:51 GMT 3
Really? I never heard that claim! Where did you read it? ;D
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Post by Verinen Paroni on Nov 24, 2006 22:01:21 GMT 3
Really? I never heard that claim! Where did you read it? ;D Well, I don't remember but surely I have heard that... Well, it is not impossible, because as I mentioned earlier, Golden Orda and Moscowites married each others, so "Russian" nobility got that blood and Windsors are related of Romanovs.
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Nov 24, 2006 22:19:13 GMT 3
Hmm yes you are theoreticially right
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Post by Temüjin on Nov 24, 2006 23:32:30 GMT 3
maybe, but only male sucession line counts...
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Post by kokturk on Nov 25, 2006 15:41:07 GMT 3
I'm the descendant of the Great Hagan. My ancestors are linked to Hulegu.
Of course joking but I have much more right than the Seagal guy to be Chinggisd.
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Post by suren911 on Dec 8, 2006 1:43:05 GMT 3
^Oh you should talk to him then, Suren. I dun really understand that Segal guy, he came to Mongolia a few years ago with his "brilliant" ideas of making a Chinggis movie. But he finally is making the movie with the Kazaks or the Chinese (need to check, I guess it was the Kazakhs) ;D .
We don't take our clan name as last names in Mongolia. Where is Borjiged from? Sounds very interesting. My paternal side's held the tribe name "Hiad Borjigin" (Temujin's tribe) and my grandpa's father was a Taij and a very intelligent man and was shot in the head in the 1930s Stalinist purge . I don't know if he really was from the royal family, I want to ask someone but all the elders of the family passed away. And during the communist time, if you were from a family of taij, rich or monks, you had to hide it as best as you can. There was another big massacre in Mongolia in early XX century during the last years of VIII Bogd Khaan and the early years of the People's Communist government. Many Taij (title of man, who's from Chinggis family) people holding important positions in the government were assasinated and they say it was almost the end of Chinggis family. But I also have heard of many people claiming to be descendents of the Great Khan in Inner Mongolia. If they really are, it's great! Steven Segal is the biggest Asian fetishist ever. He pretends to speak Chinese and stars himself with Chinese actresses in those phony movies but I know his Chinese sounds like crap. And he has a Japanese wife. Big time fetishist. I seriously can't stand him. Oh yeah the girl I know with the lastname Borjiged comes from a pretty prominent family. She has a Chinese name also hypenated with her Borjiged name, because her family is originally South Mongolian but went to Mongolia. You might know this but many South Mongolians (Inner Mongolians) have Sinocized names from their original Mongol name. But when you write the character, you know it's a foreign name because Chinese people don't have those names and those characters were made up in ancient times only for foreigners. My grandma has one of those. It's funny because on papers and forms, they can't type out her name and they have to write it in and ask her all about it. There were political purges in Mongolia but there weren't any in Inner Mongolia. I mean, IM people suffered together, but the Chinese never identified certain clans and specific people. So yes there are many surviving prominent family. Nowadays they're just farmers and some are more fortunate than others but not really. I wish Russia and China would just give it a hands off and let these people's history be recorded. I mean these people are descendents of the man with the biggest balls in history, literally. He's our daddy. (I say it all the time lol.)
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Post by Bor Chono on Dec 8, 2006 6:17:41 GMT 3
Borjigin is name in one-number! -make it into -many/multi-number!? Borjigin will become : -Borjigduud or Borjiged. -I think Suren U speaking in many-number version of Borjigin. Also I don`t know how word "Borjigin" is spoken in Uvur Mongolia=Tsahar Mongolia.(Inner Mongolians? -I hate & don`t admit this word "Inner"!!!!) For example : Ar Mongols always say word "we"="Bid" Uvur Mongols mostly say "we"="Manuus"(=LOL some Ar Mongolians find it funny) Some say that Uvur Mongols speak in old Mongolian & Some say that Uvur Mongols speak in not developed childish Mongolian.(=U can`t feel any savage/proud spirit when a Uvur Mongolian speaks!) I don`t know about this old man! He doesn`t look noble to me! I would like to see his younger photos!
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