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Post by snafu on Aug 23, 2006 1:45:04 GMT 3
Do Mongolians ever name their children after great heroes of the past? If not, why? Do the ancient names just sound too silly compared to modern names?
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Post by Bor Chono on Aug 23, 2006 14:11:17 GMT 3
Sure! They doesn`t sound funny. -maybe female names are bit funny. For example "Uelun"(=mother of Temujin) sounds like "Ulun"="Hungry" -maybe she was very hungry when she was a child. I guess In old time there was a tradition not to give a name for months. From this tradition I guess something has left : -new born child is not showed to strangers for 2-3 month. I waited for 3 month to see my friend`s son. But some names are considered heavy for the owner. I mean I can`t name my son as "Chinggis" because I think this name might be too heavy. Ofcourse there are ppl with name "Chinggis".  |
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Post by Saran on Sept 12, 2006 8:04:59 GMT 3
Sure! They doesn`t sound funny. -maybe female names are bit funny. For example "Uelun"(=mother of Temujin) sounds like "Ulun"="Hungry"...O name "Chinggis".
Oh u suck, Bor Chono!  |
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Sept 12, 2006 17:24:23 GMT 3
Oh please, please  ;D |
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Post by tangriberdi on Sept 15, 2006 20:48:52 GMT 3
-new born child is not showed to strangers for 2-3 month. I waited for 3 month to see my friend`s son. Interesting. This tradition is also found among Anatolian Turks, but it is disappearing day by day. It is interesting that although Turkey and Mongolia are really far away from each other, such similarities can still be found. |
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Sept 15, 2006 21:01:21 GMT 3
Hi tangriberdi, welcome to SHF!  |
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Post by Boorchi Noyan on Sept 15, 2006 23:14:17 GMT 3
-new born child is not showed to strangers for 2-3 month. I waited for 3 month to see my friend`s son. Interesting. This tradition is also found among Anatolian Turks, but it is disappearing day by day. It is interesting that although Turkey and Mongolia are really far away from each other, such similarities can still be found. yes it is because of a bad soul trying to steal the children. I think the soul's name is Aybasti. |
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Post by tangriberdi on Sept 15, 2006 23:26:29 GMT 3
Interesting. This tradition is also found among Anatolian Turks, but it is disappearing day by day. It is interesting that although Turkey and Mongolia are really far away from each other, such similarities can still be found. yes it is because of a bad soul trying to steal the children. I think the soul's name is Aybasti. In Turkey people believe that if you show your child in his or hear eraly days to a stranger he or she will be overwhelmed and consumed bu evil spirits. (Genia) Aybasti is a Turkic mithological devil. In Anatolian Turkish it is remembered under the names aybastý, albastý, albaz, albýz, albýs etc... Now it is seen as a superstition and a trace of Gok Turk religion in present time Turkish society in Turkey. The same Steppe belief . And the same mythological daemon. I am surprised that Anatolian Turks still have such an important steppe cultural element as a remnant of their Asiatic heritage. |
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Post by BAWIR$AQ on Sept 16, 2006 1:09:29 GMT 3
yes it is because of a bad soul trying to steal the children. I think the soul's name is Aybasti. Kazaks say Albastı |
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Post by tangriberdi on Sept 16, 2006 12:59:37 GMT 3
yes it is because of a bad soul trying to steal the children. I think the soul's name is Aybasti. Kazaks say Albastı Yes in Anatolian Turkish too, albastý, albaz or albýz forms are more frequent. But Aybastý is just a standard form. |
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Post by Bor Chono on Sept 16, 2006 13:07:00 GMT 3
About Albins & Albys  Visit "Religion & Myth"-"Hero" page!  |
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Post by Boorchi Noyan on Sept 16, 2006 22:50:47 GMT 3
Yes, we tie something red to baby's bed to avoid that Aybasti thing...
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Post by Bor Chono on Sept 17, 2006 12:45:29 GMT 3
Yes, we tie something red to baby's bed to avoid that Aybasti thing... One of symbols of 3 River Mongols is Red ribbon. Red ribbon symbolizes happyness. So If Boorchi is right It also can be useful against Evil spirits! |
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Post by Boorchi Noyan on Sept 17, 2006 21:35:13 GMT 3
Yeah I am right, it is done like this here.
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Post by Jagatai Khan on Sept 18, 2006 23:33:30 GMT 3
Bor Chono do you use "Jagatai" in Mongolia?
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;D
