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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Sept 21, 2007 0:47:43 GMT 3
For instance, Çary means fourth son, Baþim - fifth, Dursun - let it be the last one. We also have the same thing (Dursun) ;D We also have names with odd meanings to protect the baby. For instance, the name of the girl can be Kampýr (old lady) so that she'd always be young and beautiful. For boys, we have names like Satýlmýþ (Sold, also means dedicated for a saint), Yaþar ([He] Lives), etc to protect the kids from evil spirits (jinns). |
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Post by Subu'atai on Jun 25, 2008 13:12:14 GMT 3
Somehow someway in my personal experience being named after a general has resulted in rather strange circumstances.
Despite living in a sedentary country (Australia), a nomadic life was forced upon me, I've moved a total of 45+ houses already in my lifetime (at 22), and being a shocking minority here has also forced a warrior mentality in my head as I have to deal with both Aussie and Chinese majorities - sometimes violently just to stand up for myself and my way of life.
As for the great General Subeedei/Subuatai/Subotai (I've seen so many translations in my life of my own name it's not funny lol ;D ), yes he grew fat - and I was a fat a** during my early youth too, but I'm much better now haha.
I'm quite talented it seems when it comes to strategic thinking as well, when I applied for the military I was recommended to spec forces or officer training instead of general entry due to IQ tests and cadet experience.
Of course, I prefered starting from the bottom up, more respect that way, better leadership in the future as well. Fortunately, the Australian army declared war on Iraq while my application was still waiting for a vacancy. I canceled my application, decided not to fight in an American politician's game.
Lots of other stuff happened but yeah, seems fate gets attached a name somehow. But that's just my experience ne ways heh
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Jun 25, 2008 20:03:23 GMT 3
Interesting story indeed  Btw, it's Sübe'etei  |
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Post by Subu'atai on Jun 25, 2008 20:43:39 GMT 3
LOL don't start with that
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Post by Temüjin on Jun 25, 2008 20:57:10 GMT 3
Btw, it's Sübe'etei oh, i always wrote it as Sübe'edai... |
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Jun 26, 2008 14:28:50 GMT 3
No no, the correct form is Sübe'etei. I trust Igor de Rachewiltz, one of the leading Mongolists in the World, author of the biggest, best and most recent translation of SHoM |
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Post by Subu'atai on Jun 26, 2008 16:36:10 GMT 3
Igor de Rachewiltz isn't even Mongol! Haha Ne ways it's Subu'atai  - and thats the name on my passport, using old translation from traditional script. Cyrillic translation instead of Latin is Subeedei |
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Jun 26, 2008 21:42:53 GMT 3
But he is one of the leading experts |
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Post by Temüjin on Jun 26, 2008 22:31:27 GMT 3
i'd need to hear how it is pronounced to judge which is the best transcription to Latin.
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Post by Subu'atai on Jun 27, 2008 1:55:10 GMT 3
Sue-bow-tie
Funny - my name is actually Subugatai - confusing EVERY SINGLE person who reads out my name. It gets irritating correcting all the time, the 'G' is silent people!!!
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Post by snafu on Jun 27, 2008 6:36:11 GMT 3
What does the name Subu'atai/Sube'etai mean anyway?
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Post by Subu'atai on Jun 27, 2008 9:04:45 GMT 3
Sharp-ass needle lol ;D
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Post by snafu on Jun 27, 2008 10:11:35 GMT 3
Well it's a pretty cool name to have.
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Post by Subu'atai on Jun 27, 2008 10:16:38 GMT 3
Heh thanks but I don't think so, especially when you're correcting people all the time During childhood everyone also seems to think I live in a ger  |
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Post by mongolulus on Apr 5, 2009 19:48:22 GMT 3
mongolian hero names in mongolia? ok, we have: batmonh (batu-mongke) who was a great khan in the 15th century, chingis, temujin, manduhai, huluguu, tsogt (17th century hero), biligt, bilguun, ambagai, baatar, baabar, tomor etc. all these r common names.
by the way, there are people called Tsolmon (meaning venus or morning star). i learnt that in turkish venus is also called cholban or something.
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- and thats the name on my passport, using old translation from traditional script. Cyrillic translation instead of Latin is Subeedei
