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Post by Verinen Paroni on Nov 30, 2006 17:03:06 GMT 3
Tatar Turks are ethnicly,Bulghar and Kypchak Turks.I think you mean this right? Well, I'm not sure were Bulgars actually Turkic, except language. Some Tatars in Volga are also originally Finnic (Mescherians). |
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Post by balamir on Nov 30, 2006 17:06:27 GMT 3
You can be sure that they were Turkic,also known as Oghur.
Hmm,I don't know any finnic Tatars =(.
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Post by Verinen Paroni on Nov 30, 2006 20:16:34 GMT 3
You can be sure that they were Turkic,also known as Oghur. Hmm,I don't know any finnic Tatars =(. Mescherans were Finnic nation in Volga. They adopted Islam and Turkic language. Nowadays they are called Mishäär-Tatars. We have those people also in Finland and they are one of those only two good minorities. (Other are Lapps and f**k the rest minorities). |
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Dec 1, 2006 1:58:33 GMT 3
About the Bulghars: depends on which Bulghars you are talking about ;D
The Bulgarians in the Balkans (ancient Moesia and Thracia) are, as I said before, ex-subjects of mostly Slavised Thracians of the Turkic Bulghar State. The Bulghars of Volga (Itil)-Qama were and are a Turkic people. Modern Chuvash are their direct descendents, the Tatars of Tataristân (Qazan) are the mixture of those Bulghars and Qïpchaqs.
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Post by kokturk on Dec 1, 2006 17:15:45 GMT 3
About the Bulghars: depends on which Bulghars you are talking about ;D The Bulgarians in the Balkans (ancient Moesia and Thracia) are, as I said before, ex-subjects of mostly Slavised Thracians of the Turkic Bulghar State. The Bulghars of Volga (Itil)-Qama were and are a Turkic people. Modern Chuvash are their direct descendents, the Tatars of Tataristân (Qazan) are the mixture of those Bulghars and Qïpchaqs. Tatars of Qazan cliam to be Bulgars who speak Tatar language (Resembling Kypchak language of Crimean tatars) because of the influence of the religion. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2006 9:41:26 GMT 3
Salar-English
Anigi apasi takka yirtux vurma vamish - His father went shooting.
Pu a'tcuz yaxshi a'ttir - This is a good horse.
Pu oy minigidur - This house is mine
Pu zanzu sinigi ider-o? is this cup yours?
Men sinigi kuyung iter - i am your husband.
Vular va'por - They are going
Seler varoxtyr - you aren't going
Piser varaloxtyr - we can't go
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Post by karakhan on May 15, 2007 21:22:34 GMT 3
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Post by pantigin on Feb 11, 2008 9:49:57 GMT 3
Salars aren't look Mongol like Turks mixed with Mongols. I think they aren't mixed much(they also don't look chinese much) Do they know that they are Turks?(I know this is a funny question,but there are a few peoples who don't know their Turk origins =) |
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Feb 11, 2008 14:13:31 GMT 3
How sad   Their minds should be liberated from Arabic religious-thought imperialism. |
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Post by Atabeg on Feb 11, 2008 15:40:18 GMT 3
what are those breads called it looks like pide  |
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Post by pantigin on Feb 11, 2008 21:44:17 GMT 3
what are those breads called it looks like pide steamed beef cake (niu rou bing) By the way, I swear, I won't give arabic or farsi names to my children in future. I will give pure turkic names to them. And teach them who they are and who were their glorious forefathers. |
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Feb 12, 2008 3:55:40 GMT 3
I agree with you bro'. I am also thinking of giving Turkic and Mongolian names like Qorqut, Arslan and Batu to my children, if I will have any  |
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Post by kokturk on Feb 12, 2008 23:59:55 GMT 3
I agree with you bro'. I am also thinking of giving Turkic and Mongolian names like Qorqut, Arslan and Batu to my children, if I will have any You surely won't have a daughter. Real men have real male sons (Erkek adamın erkek oğlu olur.) . |
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Feb 13, 2008 10:32:10 GMT 3
ROFLMAO ;D ;D ;D Well, what I said goes for the female children too |
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Post by tengrikut on Feb 13, 2008 14:04:33 GMT 3
maybe we are offtopic a bit but i would love to name my son baturay (baatarai) which means little hero, how cute for a son i grow up, isnt it ;D and for a daughter aybüke, ayça (looks like moon or cresent) or tuðçe (little tug) are my favorutes |
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Their minds should be liberated from Arabic religious-thought imperialism.
