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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2006 13:30:32 GMT 3
We would be glad if you would take some photos and share them with us  Of course, it may be in a few months though, probably when spring starts. The Yellow Uygurs are quickly losing their culture and traditions so Uygurs from Kashgar are being hired to go live with them for a while and re-teach them their traditions. I have two friends who are thinking about taking this job, if they go I will go with them for a couple weeks. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2006 13:32:28 GMT 3
hey karachai people know and feel honour of their origins balamir you should improve your knowledge and don't say anything without being sure  The majority of the Karachays I've met are clueless. Some of them think that just because their land is in Russia that they're Russian, not Turk. |
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Post by balamir on Nov 28, 2006 18:25:39 GMT 3
Karachai and Bulghars for example...And Avars today... The Qarachays? I thought they were aware of their Turkicness  The modern Bulgarians are not Turkic, they are the descendents of the Slavic subjects of the Turkic Bulghar people who ruled over them, but most of these Slavics are indeed Slavisied Thracians. I don't think so...I know that most of the Karachai people call theirslves cherkes,isn't it true? Don't Bulghars today have any Turkic blood?I have never heard about this but thanks. What about Avars today? |
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Nov 28, 2006 19:43:16 GMT 3
Even if the modern Bulgarians have Turkic blood, it must be quiet small when compared with Thracian and Slavic. I do not know much about modern Caucasian Avars |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2006 6:54:13 GMT 3
I never heard a Karachay say they're Cherkez but they are culturally close. As for the Bulgarians, they used to be Turks way back in the day but are now Slavic.
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Post by balamir on Nov 29, 2006 10:42:49 GMT 3
Karachai people are Turkic,but they assimilated.They think thay are cherkes.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2006 13:18:42 GMT 3
No they're not Cherkez, they're Turks. Just because a lot of them think they're Russian or Cherkez doesn't mean they've been assimilated. To be assimilated their language and culture must change as well.
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Post by balamir on Nov 29, 2006 13:28:19 GMT 3
I mean culture assimilation =).
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Post by aca on Nov 29, 2006 13:45:53 GMT 3
I agree only with that part about language.
Belive it or not, the culture (and the way of life in general) has nothing to do with belonging to a certain group of people.
Here is an example: Sakha, Tuvans and Anatolian Turks all look different from eachother, they all have a different culture and way of life, they all have different clothes and national costumes, and they all belong to a different religion (Christianity, Buddhism and Islam). But their language is what connects them, and what makes them all Turks.
Race, culture, script you use, the God you pray to - these are totally insignificant things... but if your people speak Turkic, only than you can say that you are a Turk.
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Post by balamir on Nov 29, 2006 14:01:32 GMT 3
They have the same blood,but they all mixed. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2006 12:47:16 GMT 3
I agree only with that part about language. Belive it or not, the culture (and the way of life in general) has nothing to do with belonging to a certain group of people. Here is an example: Sakha, Tuvans and Anatolian Turks all look different from eachother, they all have a different culture and way of life, they all have different clothes and national costumes, and they all belong to a different religion (Christianity, Buddhism and Islam). But their language is what connects them, and what makes them all Turks. Race, culture, script you use, the God you pray to - these are totally insignificant things... but if your people speak Turkic, only than you can say that you are a Turk. Yea that's true. |
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Post by Verinen Paroni on Nov 30, 2006 14:47:50 GMT 3
Bulgarians are mostly Thracians. They have still over 15% of Proto-Bulgar blood... Slavic blood is less than 5%. Most Bulgarians what I know feels solidarity for their Tatarstan-cousins. |
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Post by balamir on Nov 30, 2006 14:51:40 GMT 3
Tigin says they don't have Turk blood,how can Tatars their cousins?
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Post by Verinen Paroni on Nov 30, 2006 15:17:40 GMT 3
Tigin says they don't have Turk blood,how can Tatars their cousins? Volga-Bulgars are now known as Tatars also. |
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Post by balamir on Nov 30, 2006 16:44:03 GMT 3
Tatar Turks are ethnicly,Bulghar and Kypchak Turks.I think you mean this right?
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