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Post by aynur on Jun 1, 2011 10:27:45 GMT 3
The possible relation is undoubtedly distant, but a friend of mine who is a Finn and lives in Antalya, Turkey says that most of the Finnish and Estonian people who move there have a significantly easier time learning the language than Germans, Italians and so on.
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Post by aynur on May 30, 2011 20:04:24 GMT 3
Well, yeah. Considering the fact that Finnish people and their culture developed far away from the steppe, it's quite astonishing.
I also have to admit that whenever I listen to a song in Turkic language, there's a similarity with Finnish and other Ugric languages.
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Post by aynur on May 30, 2011 19:27:59 GMT 3
Going a bit off-topic here, but in Finnish a capital city is called pääkaupunki.
pää(head, main) + kaupunki(city)
Some similarity with the Hungarian words.
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Post by aynur on May 29, 2011 16:01:07 GMT 3
I've always been interested in Tengrism. There are a lot of similarities between Finnish folk religion and Tengrism, actually! The bear and the deer are almost in the same position as the wolf and the horse in Tengrism.
Isn't it more about being in balance with nature and the surrounding world much like Taoism, too?
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Suomi
May 27, 2011 23:43:51 GMT 3
Post by aynur on May 27, 2011 23:43:51 GMT 3
Perkeleen karvaset turkkilaiset ja vinosilimät. Äläkää sitte loukkaannukko varsin jos te käännätte tän jollekki toiselle kielelle!
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Post by aynur on May 24, 2011 13:53:49 GMT 3
It's interesting debate. If you ask me, none of the ancient steppe confederations and empires were controlled/inhabited by a homogeneous population. You had tribes that lived side by side that could've had both Mongoloids (Turks/Mongols/Tungus) and Caucasoids (Scythians/Saka) or the ones in between.
As for the Huns:
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Post by aynur on Apr 2, 2011 18:56:33 GMT 3
Not sure if this was posted before: E; Seljuk Turks Kypchaks/Cumans Bashkort
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Post by aynur on Mar 31, 2011 18:33:07 GMT 3
From what I've learned, the Magyars were a confederation of many tribes from the Baraba steppes and the regions below. Many of those tribes could've been Ugric in origin who had long mixed with the Turks and inherited many cultural traits from them (nomadic and semi-nomadic lifestyle as opposed to reindeer herding amongst the Ugrians) while the non-Ugric tribes could've began using the Magyar language that was Uralic in origin universally.
No tribe or people in the steppes was 'ethnically pure' since different cultures came from all walks of life, be it Turkic, Ugric, Mongolic, Iranic or Slavic. Ranting 'HUNGARIANS ARE TURKS!' or "HUNGARIANS ARE SCYTHIANS!' sounds plain stupid and ignorant to me.
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Post by aynur on Mar 31, 2011 18:21:32 GMT 3
I'm not the one who said that, so I can't be too sure whether it's credible or not and the names can always change from region to region. Ethnically of course the Finns are a totally different people from the Mongols, Oirats and the Buryats because we've lived in forests and the tundra regions of northern Lapland amongst the Sami but linguistically Uralic and Altaic languages have also mixed, be it through marriages or an exchange of words from merchants. It's possible those words were taken from the Udmurt or Komi who are close to the Finns. But I don't know.
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Post by aynur on Mar 30, 2011 21:11:59 GMT 3
Hello, everybody! I'm back on the forums, lost my password for a looong time.
Anyway, I wanted to bring this thread back up because I made a discovery about a week ago from a biology teacher of mine whose been to Mongolia and the Baykal region quite a few times and told me about the similarities between Finnish, Mongolian and the Turkic languages in Baykal. An asterism we call Otava (Big Dipper) here in Finland according to him is called 'Ota' in Mongolia. A fish we call siika here in Finland is called 'siiga' in Baykal (must've been a Buryat) and another fish called taimi is referred to as 'taimej' over there. It was pretty surprising to hear it.
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Magyars
Sept 19, 2010 12:34:08 GMT 3
Post by aynur on Sept 19, 2010 12:34:08 GMT 3
I decided to open up this thread because I wanted to know more about the Magyars. I'm not so familiar with their history, but as far as I'm concerned, they came from the Ural Mountains, lived a nomadic lifestyle similar to that of the Turks and the Mongols and spoke an Ugric language ( not to mention, most of the Ural Mountains is still inhabited by plenty of Ugric-speaking peoples ). I've seen some pictures of their clothing. For example, their pointed hats looked similar to the ones used later by the Kipchaks, Kazakhs and Cumans. I think they also absorbed the practice of braiding hair long before arriving in Hungary, possibly even before they got on the move and in contact with the Central Asian Turks. This was a good source; www.hunmagyar.org/tor/magyar.htmAnyhow, if anybody has some pictures or information about the Magyars, please post here.
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Post by aynur on Aug 7, 2010 23:03:02 GMT 3
I personally think the Scythians were just another confederation of Asiatic nomads, let it be Iranian-speaking peoples or early Turks. There's not a clear ethnic distinction within the Scythians, we can see death masks featuring both Europoids and Mongoloids or of mixed racial identities in Jenisei River.
The claims that I have come across when it comes to Scythians and Sarmatians like "Hungarians/Bulgarians are ancestors of Scythians/Sarmatians" make no sense to me.
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Post by aynur on Aug 7, 2010 22:58:00 GMT 3
I've always believed there was at least some sort of connection between Turkic, Mongolic and the Native American peoples, though it has to be noted that the split happened a very long time ago and what united the Altaic, Siberian and Native Americans is their culture. I mean, look at those peoples during war. The Turks and the Mongols were fierce, so were the Native Americans. Another example is throat singing.
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Post by aynur on May 9, 2010 12:44:49 GMT 3
They're making a new Mongol movie?
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Post by aynur on Jan 30, 2010 0:48:13 GMT 3
I heard they were making a sequel to this film called 'The Great Khan', is that true?
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