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Post by Nomad (Daz) on Jun 19, 2008 12:22:06 GMT 3
And which country will you represent?
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Post by Nomad (Daz) on Jun 19, 2008 12:17:55 GMT 3
Well if you talk about the propaganda now its Turk Propaganda. But thats not the core of what I was saying. My point was.... We usually say "You see a chip(nidle) in my eye while you don't see a log in your eye!" I hope you get what I was going to say.
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Post by Nomad (Daz) on Jun 19, 2008 8:08:29 GMT 3
Well Turkey is also occupying the terretiro and you are proud of it isn't it? I've been in Greece and they claim and rightfully from historical point of view that West of Turkey (Istanbul) belongs to Greeks. North-east belongs to Armenians and South to Kurds. Well lets talk about the occupation of turks in the West. Do you intend to give it back to Greeks or what?
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Post by Nomad (Daz) on Jun 18, 2008 7:19:57 GMT 3
Yes I am Kazakh! Who doesn't hate its goverment. My goverment made itself a laughing stock. My county is in economical crisis. Whats worse is that people started to starve. Goverment policies only makes the situation to the worse. Have you seen the goverment where its PM says that everything is good while prices on food, fuel jumps. Why did I say I want to expand the terretory of Kazakhstan is not under the influence of imperilalizm. 1) Like most of you guys I belive its historicaly kazakhland. 2) Its needed to supply its nation with whats it needs. 3) To increase its population.
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Post by Nomad (Daz) on Jun 18, 2008 7:02:37 GMT 3
What world have learned is that nobody will help you in the moment of starvation. If you will not be stronger you will be forced to obey who is stronger. In the age of energy crisis and food shortage. When goverment structure is unstable, revolutions and terrorist attacs are so casual as the bad weather in England. The only way for nation to survive is by doing whatever is necessary. What China is doing is tring to be stronger so that no other nation will dictate it's will. Population of China is 1/4 of the world population and with what means do you expect to give the majority what they need for survival? Sacrifices. You will sacrivice your people for the bigger half. You will sacrifice other nation to feed your own, you will sacrifice!
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Post by Nomad (Daz) on Jun 17, 2008 17:43:42 GMT 3
Nanman I think you should not step back under the pressure of people. Even if they are such highly ranked people as admin. Shame on them that they allow emotions to come up on such small matter. What China does is for its nations good. If it was for my nation I would have already occupied West China, South Russia, Uzbekistan and Kyrgystan but saddly we don't have the means for that. Inshalla it will some day happen. History don't change even if we wish so. (You can rewrite it)
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Post by Nomad (Daz) on Jun 17, 2008 17:02:27 GMT 3
Our best friend is America!!! What would have happened if they did not attack Afganistan? Probably in 2004 we would have been pulled into war with Talibans and Radical muslims. Yes American have wicked politics and they think about benefit of their own pocket rather than bright future. But they are far way rather than China and Russia. Better with land and no money rather than without land and money.
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Post by Nomad (Daz) on Sept 25, 2006 17:08:52 GMT 3
I belive that islamization of kazakhstan is not fully complet and nowdays bring some hard times on people. South part of the Kazakhstan 99% Muslim while north less than 30%(I count only people who keep to the regulaion in religion) and when it comes to elections in playes bad ticks on votes. When Taliban holded power in Afganistan and thought of expanding(Islamic Emirate) they relayed on muslim majority in the South. Maybe its good that we are not 100% muslims. It gives freedom and keeps us away from fanatics.
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Post by Nomad (Daz) on Sept 25, 2006 16:59:02 GMT 3
Sorry my fault. I read it as the battle of Atlas and was wondering why it had europian style.
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Post by Nomad (Daz) on Sept 22, 2006 18:48:20 GMT 3
Well can I add some more information.....
Tha battle of Atlas that took place in 751 between Arabs and Chinese didn't changed people fast. As Arab won and took the control of land (Uzbekistan, Tajikistan & Turkmenistan) they placed their own governer who was picky and to be muslim was good for business especially if you a in trade business. It only affected the south part of Central Asia. Uzbeks, Turkmens and Tajiks are very religious nowdays. Kazakh so so. Secondly we can say it was a war of religions in 751. Arab won therefore muslim religion is better and Alah stronger. It matters for a warrior. If I go to war I would like to pray for someone who is stronger & would want the god to punish my enemy. That was a push for muslim religion into the steppe. So the religion was abopted by chiefs and warlords and later pushed on others. Khans like Berke, Urus, the victory of our brothers under the leadership of Sultan Beibars over the Crusaders in Egypt made people who lived in steppes to think over their belives and to pick the side of the victor. But that still couldn't force to forget our native religion Tengri. I think the main reason why Central Steppes abopted the muslim its because our ancestors belived that Tengri could pick any forms but he will always be there. Muslim Religion has a lots of identical things with Tengizm. In some ways its even better. It brought education with it Many scholars were muslims and schools tought arabic and religion to the childrens. And accepting musim religion we changed it. Our muslim belivers not the same as in Uzbekistan or Arabic countries. For us religion gives us education. It opens a lot of doors for us. And its good for business. Majority in Kazakhstan Belive in Allah but we don't pray 5 times a day. We don't keep to the rules. We drink and smoke. We love women and luxery. But we know at the end of all this we will face him and he will hold a trial over our sins.
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Post by Nomad (Daz) on Aug 22, 2007 1:16:01 GMT 3
Guys Russian producer Sergei Bodrov Starshy is shooting a new film "MONGOL". Its gona be great people!!!
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Post by Nomad (Daz) on Dec 12, 2006 3:10:32 GMT 3
yessss its out. Here in china we have lots of it. hehehehehehe
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Post by Nomad (Daz) on Sept 25, 2006 17:29:08 GMT 3
No, most of Qojas do not consider Muhammad as their ancestor. In fact, the expression "descendant of Muhammad" is not correct, because Muhammad did not have any son, therefore, no legitimate descendants. There's only one group of Qojas - Seyit-Qoja - who trace their ancestry to Fatima Zahra, the daughter the prophet Muhammad and the wife of caliph Ali. No they do belive them selfes as the descendants of Muhammad. Who are the ruling families in Arabic Countries such as UAE or SA. From where does the noble families trace their heratage. How could someone equal lead people after himself and when start doing something makes the deal as a God wish. Who can claim the Djihad in Arabic countries? Only the descendants of Prophet Muhammed. It justifies their deal. They have the holy blood in their veins. I disagree!!! Even men where forced to marry one of thiers. It doesn't matter what he wants it what family thinks is best for him. He is a noble blood such as Jusus Crist. He could not marry anybody else as spoils the blood. And as we talked about the islamization of Qazak. Qoja lives in south of Kazakhstan where before 1917 lived only muslims and praized the holy families as Qojas.
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Post by Nomad (Daz) on Sept 22, 2006 17:25:18 GMT 3
Koja/Qoja claim that they are the descendant of the Profet Muhammed. I belive that they are the descendat of the Great General who led the Muslim army under the green flag of the prohet to the east and fought at the battle of Atlas against the Tan empire close to the city Taraz now days. NEVER THE LESS In United Arabic Emirates if you could prove that you are Koja/Qoja you will get the audience with the Emir and if you like will be given the citezenship UAE and all the accomodations with it in UAE. Its not easily made as in fact Arabs keep a long record of all Koja/Qojas in Central Asia. For them its an honer to have Koja as a citizen. (Before the October Revolution in 1917 it was impossible to get mixed with Koja or Tore.)
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Post by Nomad (Daz) on Jul 2, 2006 19:35:23 GMT 3
Well it sounds like they are Eastlake(Donghu) Chinese
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