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Post by Nomad (Daz) on Nov 16, 2006 14:02:16 GMT 3
Why do you consider it funny?
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Post by Nomad (Daz) on Jul 2, 2006 19:32:58 GMT 3
Well I did say it could be false. But the place is holy!
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Post by Nomad (Daz) on Jul 1, 2006 19:31:08 GMT 3
Well I am not home yet but I found this picture on the web. It was taken from the Tamgaly. The legen say that it was made by the Great Khan when he was crossing the rive Ili. It could be false as that is the check point for one of the Silkroads so the picture could be older than we think. It was originaly on a face of the big rock but later something happened and the rock fell into a small pieces. (Original height of the rook was 5 store building) There are aslo a stone of all central steppies tribes tamga their and the stone with a big headed messenger or as one call them Tengi. I will get them later as soon as I can get my hands on them.
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Post by Nomad (Daz) on Jun 28, 2006 23:34:34 GMT 3
I found some thing intersting in Russian methology. Their was a god his name is something starts with P(Thunder) thats not important. He came from sky and tought people how to live. He told them about iron and he gave men a when they became arrogant the law or set of rules to live a happy life. One more thing he lived between humans for a long time. He was married to the goddess of Spring and his simbol was a circle with 6 arrow star in a middle. He was most beloved god because he helped people and he fought evil and send then down the earth. He was very humane allowing people to worship what they like best and he was pissed of if someone would treat bread (nan) bad.
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Post by Nomad (Daz) on Jun 27, 2006 4:35:22 GMT 3
Any photos of them? I will add more pictures and photos as soon as I get back home. I will be home probably if I don't screw things up by 8th of July.
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Post by Nomad (Daz) on Jun 26, 2006 12:58:21 GMT 3
What your idea about the small picture I posted before? What do you think of it and what does it tells you?
Which university do you want to go to in Kazakhstan?
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Post by Nomad (Daz) on Jun 19, 2006 6:07:29 GMT 3
Well in place we found them they looks like giants compare to people zho dance around them. Kazakh and Kyrgyz people call them as Tengri or Tengris soul. But the strange thing is that he is not the only one we can find on caves drawings. There are the figures of man shape beast with horns and animal hunting.
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Post by Nomad (Daz) on Jun 17, 2006 21:19:45 GMT 3
Well I walk also strait but I think there are different reasons for that. My girlfriend call me a bear. Its due to my body complex. Its harder for me to walk like in picture one. As we talk about Tengri. I see we have a Tengrikut who is the Tengri worshiper. Could you tell us more about Tengrizm and comment on any of our mistakes. It would be bad if we will make you angry. For I am a new person to this religion. I only know it through books and old stories from elders who are not Tengri worshipers. We have this pictures all over stepps and more on the mountains such as Altai and Tianshan close to Almaty. Many in Kazakhstan considers them as the picture of Tengri on earth. You may probably saw same pictures before its easy to remember it. Whats your idea about it?
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Post by Nomad (Daz) on Jun 12, 2006 11:14:54 GMT 3
Yes. Kazakh walk differently. I can see my country mates from distance just by his behavior. Chinese walk in groups. Usually a bit shy and slow. Always look on their pals and fellows if they do something. If they cross the road they just do it and will not give pass to car or any other transport. Very rude. When speaking they shout. Very aggressive and think only about own profit in money even if it damages the reputation and honor. They love to watch someone being in trouble, car accident and death. Nothing is taboo for them. Very greedy. Addicted to gamble, sex and food
I had a teacher and she said that she can identify chinese from asians only if he talk about food, games and sleep on lessons.
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Post by Nomad (Daz) on Jun 9, 2006 1:05:45 GMT 3
Before a long time ago people who lived on the green fields of Deshty-Kypchak where the worshipers of Snake. Snake or Dragon. Its nothing to do with Chinese. Snake is the god of magic. (We can find sign of snakes in anything thats related to magic. Medicine used to be added aslo as a magic thing.) It is also a symbol of Mother Earth. In many religions we see the snake close connected to women, we even have legens relating women to snake. (Even Bible) In old times people believed in "Mother Earth" and worshiped the snake as a form of goddest. She taught people about magic and how to live in peace in her world. I probably could think that during that times it was matriarch. Girls love to say that long time ago the world was ruled by women. (Mother of Alexander the Great was the priest of that religion. Snake worshipers. If the stories are true) But then a Tengri came. The all blue sky. He was alone from the sky. Like an invader from the different world. The one and only. He was the most powerfull of all the gods on the earth. He brought new order. He teach people skills and crafts. He told people how to make bricks out of mud and how to burn it to make it stronger building material. How to get iron which is stronger than bronze. Giving the nomads the strongest weapon that no one could stand against. How to ride a horse using the bar bit and reins which made nomads the best horse riders in the world. And how to farm using the sickle, mattock and ploughs. When Tengri came many gods went underworld. (Sakas I think were the Snake believers.) Tengri never wanted to force people in believing him. To those who believed in him he granted a victory in battles and good life. Where did he lived?! Sky is his home. I like to compare religions nad to me he looks like Uranus. Greek god Uranus was the god of Sky. He became the husband of the Mother Earth "Gayar".
To become a Tengri believer you first had to take a baptism. (Don't get confused baptism is from Tengrizm not from Christianity. Christians adopted it. Christians started baptism from the 3rd century) Real baptism like in Tengrizm we can find in Orthodox Church. The sign of Tengrizm was equal cross. All sides are equal and it had a sun in a middle. The sign of Tengri was on banners, flags, clothe, house and even jewelery. Some times instead of sun could be moon and it changed the meaning of the sign. Gods name could be only spoken by priest . Usually when fighting and enemy ten grist would shout the name "Kudai". It is also spoken in conversations and when speaking to Tengri. When tengrist pray to Tengri and ask for something, good health, victory, right choice and help he speaks of "Allah"
The teaching of Tengrizm is that everybody will face Tengri at the end and he will judge us by the way we lived our life not looking who is it a king or a poor farmer. "You create your own hell and heaven on earth!" "What ever you give you will receive it back twice as much!"
I have few questions left still. 1) When did Tengrizm appeared? 2) Are there snake worshipers now days?
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Post by Nomad (Daz) on Jun 7, 2006 23:09:41 GMT 3
I think its 2 one. Have some reasons to point in that direction. Thats a simbol of men!
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