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Post by nisse on May 14, 2007 21:22:32 GMT 3
yes, they should break up from Iran, and together form a turkestan,
turkmenistan, uzbekistan, kazakstan, kirgizstan , tajikistan and azerbaijan together with southern azerbaijan and southern turkmenistan should create a turkestan, turkey can join if they are not going to join eu,
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Post by Temüjin on May 14, 2007 21:26:09 GMT 3
but tajikistan is not turkic...
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Post by nisse on May 14, 2007 21:41:47 GMT 3
if turkestan is created then it is stupid to be outside a powerful union, thats why tajikstan should join,
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2007 8:02:34 GMT 3
in the long run, countries like Afghanistan and Iran could also join, so there would be a land connection between the CAU and Turkey and Azerbaijan. It's a good idea, and when the Turks in this Central Asian Union decide to start a Turk Union the Turks in Iran and Afghanistan would definetly be greatly influenced to join in which means they'd have to seperate from the foreign nations. This is especially possible with Iran with about 30 million Turks in their country. But I'd assume Iran is smat enough to plan for this ahead of time.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2007 8:06:46 GMT 3
yes, they should break up from Iran, and together form a turkestan, turkmenistan, uzbekistan, kazakstan, kirgizstan , tajikistan and azerbaijan together with southern azerbaijan and southern turkmenistan should create a turkestan, turkey can join if they are not going to join eu, If Turkey joins the E.U., which would never happen anyway, and Turkistan forms I'll cancel my Turkish citizenship and register with Turkistan. But Tajiks aren't Turks, the key word in Turkistan is "Turk". They can join as a, I don't know what to call it, but a non-Turk member with a lot of autonomy, cultural rights, etc. but just not Turks.
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Post by karakhan on May 15, 2007 21:42:59 GMT 3
for now the Central Asian Union is unlikely. the gap between Kazakhstan, and its southern neighbors grow immensely. It would be difficult to incorporate Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan and Kyrgyzstan at the present moment..
which is real shame. Karimov really screwed over Uzbekistan.. it was supposed to be the most developed of the "stans", and act as a focal point for all of them since it is the only "Stan" to border all the other "stans". Same for Kyrgyzstan, they should never have gotten rid of Akayev.
I'm a little optomistic of TUrkmenistan, its new leader seems more sensible than Niyazov.
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Post by nisse on May 17, 2007 23:30:31 GMT 3
he of the same nuts as nizayov, the both come from same system
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Post by nisse on May 17, 2007 23:40:17 GMT 3
maybe for the moment its difficult to create put in the future its not a impossible
What the central asian countries needs is democracie , then it turn out fine for the countries
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Post by Verinen Paroni on May 18, 2007 20:52:45 GMT 3
Demo(nic)cracy does not fit to Central Asia.
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Post by nisse on May 18, 2007 22:07:37 GMT 3
why wont it fit, are you saying that central asian people are stupid to deserve to live under dictators,
well of course you dont want to see a demcorcy develop in central asia then you would not buy cheap gas and oil from them right
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Post by Verinen Paroni on May 19, 2007 20:34:06 GMT 3
why wont it fit, are you saying that central asian people are stupid to deserve to live under dictators, well of course you dont want to see a demcorcy develop in central asia then you would not buy cheap gas and oil from them right I hate democracy even in my own country. Democracy is pure nuts and it fits only to small countries (San marino for example) or countries where is democratic traditions (UK, France).
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2007 20:35:46 GMT 3
There are other options other than Democracy and Dictatorship.
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Post by Temüjin on May 19, 2007 21:12:22 GMT 3
Democracy is pure nuts and it fits only to small countries (San marino for example) or countries where is democratic traditions (UK, France). France is not much democratic ;D the only real democracy in the world today still is Switzerland. everything else is just a pseudo-democracy. but i agree, democracies only work for small countries well.
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Post by nisse on May 20, 2007 2:18:54 GMT 3
what do you wish, a dictatorship with you as the great leader
why according to you shall democracy work for only small countries
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Post by Verinen Paroni on May 20, 2007 19:24:40 GMT 3
what do you wish, a dictatorship with you as the great leader why according to you shall democracy work for only small countries I want good and wise authoritarian rule. I don't want to be leader, because there is much more who does that better than me. Well, history has showed that it works just in small states. I agree with Temujin that Switzerland is only real democracy and there it fits well.
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