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Post by nisse on May 25, 2007 1:39:18 GMT 3
I still prefer turkestan before anything,
I think that turkey shoudl join, The EU is the future, they are going to be well in the future, join it is very good,
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2007 4:08:58 GMT 3
Ofc you didn't ^^ Like I said Turkey in a Black sea union would be verry good I think better than EU We can definetly trust the governments of that region a whole lot more than the E.U. as well.
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Post by nisse on May 25, 2007 21:39:51 GMT 3
the black sea union would be a shadow of european union, its useless, a union like would have no power , neither military or political ,
the best for turkey is EU
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on May 25, 2007 22:50:41 GMT 3
I do not trust the EU because they have so many Anti-Turkish policies, and they got countries in the union which are 30 years or more backwards than Turkey (like Bulgaria and Romania).
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Post by Atabeg on May 25, 2007 22:54:51 GMT 3
EU is slowly but surly comming 2 an end.
if it wasn't why accept new members.. Out of the goodness out of there heart(if your naive you might believe this)
They're accepting new east european countries due there cheap labour and resources.
Europe is getting grey in 10-20 years the majority of europe will be over 55 thats alot. So why should Turkey join a union of the past.
The position of power shifts from time 2 time this is a fact. The west had this possition long enough.
You tell me what makes the EU so great that a black sea union would be eclipsed by it?
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Post by nisse on May 25, 2007 23:15:14 GMT 3
Dont mind minor anti turkish commentaries,
the majority of eu want turkey to join it,
backwards or not , they have the right to join the EU
immigration is the solution for eu, they will solve it with immigration,
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Post by Atabeg on May 25, 2007 23:20:10 GMT 3
ehe noooo
In the past decade it's has become verry hard to immigrate to Europe..
I guess it's hard for you to realise that your beloved EU is comming to an end
I don't even get europe
those people are way to devided
you have Scandinavians, Baltics, Central europeans, West europeans, English are another case so are the french you have the Meditereneans.... All things must come to an end
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Post by nisse on May 25, 2007 23:23:10 GMT 3
they have just started the projekt, we cant say what the future will do , but one thing is for sure, the eu is here to stay,
they will have to open for immigration, they must to survive,
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on May 26, 2007 0:56:36 GMT 3
Dont mind minor anti turkish commentaries, the majority of eu want turkey to join it The reason why they want Turkey in the EU is that they want a much more weakened Turkey. The ones who don't support Turkey's entrance to the EU are the better people IMO because at least they are saying what they are thinking, they are honest and straight people, not lying. backwards or not , they have the right to join the EU But how come they can join and we can't, while they are more backwards than us? This is unfair. We are much more developed than those countries.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2007 7:17:44 GMT 3
So why should Turkey join a union of the past. Because a lot of Turkey is brainwashed into thinking that the west is the best....Ooooooo I made a rhyme ;D. Anyway, Europe could go back to the Dark Ages and I'm sure many Turkish people would still think Europe and the West is foward while everything to the east is backward.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2007 7:21:36 GMT 3
Dont mind minor anti turkish commentaries, the majority of eu want turkey to join it, Minor? Do you have any idea what the E.U. has requested or ordered Turkey to do just to keeps the entry talks going? The majority of the people who want Turkey to join the E.U. is just to take advantage of the cheap labor opportunity.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2007 7:24:59 GMT 3
they have just started the projekt, we cant say what the future will do , but one thing is for sure, the eu is here to stay, they will have to open for immigration, they must to survive, The E.U. is an old union, it only seems new because it's just recently been in the media due to that they're now at their peak. They'll never open immigration in the E.U., that is if Turkey is in the E.U. I'll promise you that.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2007 7:29:07 GMT 3
[quote author=admin board=board12 thread=1176423456 post=1180130196 The reason why they want Turkey in the EU is that they want a much more weakened Turkey.[/quote] Right, Turkey isn't in the E.U. and look how weak we're getting as we speak, we can't even handle our own internal issues the way we want to. It'll be 100 times worse if Turkey was a full member.
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Post by nisse on May 26, 2007 13:50:16 GMT 3
I dont think anybody except armenia wants a weaker turkey
Its a great mysteri,
I have been following the turkeys eu entrance since the begining , I think the eu has stupid rules for turkey to follow,
I think there where three points
1. the kurd question 2. cypern question 3. others
unfortanlty they have harder rules for turkey to enter then other which is unfair
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Post by Atabeg on May 26, 2007 18:23:03 GMT 3
I dont think anybody except armenia wants a weaker turkey Its a great mysteri, I have been following the turkeys eu entrance since the begining , I think the eu has stupid rules for turkey to follow, I think there where three points 1. the kurd question 2. cypern question 3. others unfortanlty they have harder rules for turkey to enter then other which is unfair Believe me lot countries might not want a weaker Turkey but definitly not a Stronger Turkey. The only reason Armenians & Kurds want a weaker Turkey is because they want to be a stronger -> More land or just own land. I might see the logic in this. I do,n'ty like european Politics with European politics I mmean the politics of today all over the world.. People try to exploit other people economicly.... Enough about Turkey this is a thread about CA to stay sort of on Topic I have a question if The was a CA union and you would be the architect or Leader what ould you do?
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