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Post by Atabeg on Aug 25, 2006 21:28:48 GMT 3
The steppe people have many famous persons in history but almost okay all of these people are warriors and kings I was wondering how many scolars or wise men do we have?
I know mahmut kashgarli and dede korkut(destan) but thats it.
I would like the know more about our scolars(Turkic,Mongolian & other)
Do we even have scolars(time periode untill 13 cent or ealier before ottomans)
edit: no scolars of central asia who were busy with islam
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Post by Boorchi Noyan on Aug 25, 2006 22:01:16 GMT 3
Tonyukuk was a wise man, maybe the wisest of all. Yusuf Has Hacip, Ulug Beg must not be forgotten. Also Yullug Tegin (writer of the tablets) must be a wise man...
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Post by snafu on Aug 26, 2006 9:11:57 GMT 3
The Uighur scholar and administrator Tatatonga played a vital role in Genghis Khan's court. He was appointed by Genghis to teach all the Mongol princes to read and write Mongolian in the Uigur script.
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Post by tengrikut on Aug 26, 2006 13:01:26 GMT 3
i think one of the today's wise man is Oktay Sinanoglu. i like him. and i have a big regart to him.
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Aug 26, 2006 21:13:03 GMT 3
Tata Toña was a wise man. He taught Chinggis Khan's sons how to read and write in the Uyghur Script. He also adopted this script for the Mongol language, creating a writing system which is still used by Inner Mongolians.
Modern Turkology own much to Mahmûd of Kâsghar's Dîvânu Lugâti't-Turk.
However, as Atabeg asks us to post about non-Muslim scholars, I can not help you much. However, I must add the fact that the Uyghurs of the Tarim Basin had lots of scribes who could read and write in many languages such as Uyghur Turkic, Soghdian, Sanskrit and Chinese.
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Post by Boorchi Noyan on Aug 26, 2006 22:05:27 GMT 3
Boorchi was a wise man
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Post by Atabeg on Aug 26, 2006 23:56:54 GMT 3
not so much as non muslims but more scholars who weren't busy with Islam
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Post by Nomad (Daz) on Sept 19, 2006 18:30:27 GMT 3
Well Kazakh must never forget about Abai Kunanbaev.
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Post by Nomad (Daz) on Sept 19, 2006 18:31:25 GMT 3
We also consider Al Farabi as our guy but thats ridiculus to me.
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Sept 19, 2006 20:05:18 GMT 3
Fârâbî was a Turk from the city of Fârâb in Yedisu, but we don't know from which people/tribe/clan he was
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Post by pantigin on Feb 6, 2008 10:45:23 GMT 3
Fârâb?was a Turk from the city of Fârâb in Yedisu, but we don't know from which people/tribe/clan he was According to a book named ancient cultural history of western regions by famous scholar Abdushukur Mehmetemin, farabi was of qarluq turkic origin.
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Feb 8, 2008 2:04:08 GMT 3
That is quiet possible indeed.
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Post by pantigin on Feb 8, 2008 12:43:14 GMT 3
And Alishir Nawa'i can be a famous scholar at the times of Chagatai khanate who always emphasized the importantness of chagatai turkic language through writing his immortal works in that language while majority of scholar of that time were doing the same thing in Persian. His influence on the formation of modern uighur and uzbek languages are always remembered. He was also a statesman in timurid court of Sultan Husain Bayqara in Herat. And facts tell us that he is of uighur turkic origin.his potrait
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Post by pantigin on Feb 8, 2008 13:03:05 GMT 3
The author of epic works named Kut-adgu-bilik(the happines of wisdom), Yusuf Has Hajip (Balsaghuni) also can be counted as great turk scholar of his time. his potrait
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Post by pantigin on Feb 8, 2008 13:12:56 GMT 3
Turghun Almas (Uyghur: تئۇرغئۇن ئالمئاس, simplified Chinese: Ͷûºé•°¢Á¦Âí˹) (30 October 1924 - 11 September 2001) was an Uyghur historian and poet born in Kashgar. He was criticized for his "support for ethnic nationalist separatists" by Wang Lequen. He was jailed from 1943 to 1946 and again from July 1947 to April 1949 for his political activities. In 1950 he became an editor for the Azadliq ( Freedom ) newspaper.Turghun is perhaps most noted for his book, Uyghurlar(the Uighurs). He began researching Uyghur history in 1980, and the book was banned after its publication in 1992. He was allegedly under house arrest until his death while he was in Urumqi. He also wrote Turkler(the Turks) and Hunlar(the Huns). They are all banned . his potrait
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