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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Nov 28, 2008 14:27:51 GMT 3
ROFLMAO no way ;D ;D Never heard about that  Oh and you forgot the Chinese thesis ;D ;D The Chinese sources give us a legend that the Asian Huns were descendents of the last emperor of the Xia 夏 Dynasty of China ;D ;D |
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Post by Subu'atai on Nov 28, 2008 14:41:16 GMT 3
LOL I saw a post or two citing sources trying to prove the Xiongnu = Scythian (thus Iranic) but never bothered to check it out. And yup, Chinese claim the Xiongnu too, in fact they claim everything in Asia ;D I talked to some Chinese about it, one possibility that isn't far-fetched is this: Firstly the Chinese did give new names (contrary to our own) to us - examples: Hun = Xiongnu, Toghrul = Wang Khan, etc. Also there have been some Xiongnu leaders planting their butts on Chinese thrones and calling themselves Chinese o.O For example, the Han Zhao state, whose leaders were directly descended from Xiongnu. The last emperor of the Xia Dynasty could very well have been an Altaic one sitting his ass on their throne humping their concubines heh Also, I learnt that Chun Wei means 'brave/handsome/warrior' so he may have been just an Altaic PIMP lol |
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Nov 28, 2008 22:28:24 GMT 3
LOL ;D
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Post by hjernespiser on Dec 17, 2008 9:33:42 GMT 3
That in China, they consider the Hungarians as the descendants of Huns. Why would the Chinese know that Hungarians are descendants of Huns? Moreover, why would you trust them, living so far away, over local records? |
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Dec 17, 2008 23:09:39 GMT 3
It's only because of the names Hun and Hungary look similar.
Right now I'm not in Ankara (at Istanbul for a couple of days); I will reply when I'll return back to Ankara.
Hungarian etymology? No way ;D
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Dec 18, 2008 2:30:02 GMT 3
I don't think it's ever possible for that word to have Hungarian etymology  It's most probably Turkic, or Turko-Mongolic |
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Post by Asparuh on Feb 23, 2009 22:48:34 GMT 3
Hello guys! I have something for you. The King Arpad,which remind me so much of our Bulgarian kings. Our King Simeon was also on white horse  I have passed trought Hungary in 2008 and i saw a brochure of Big exposition based on the history of the Magyars-showing the arriving of them in Pannonia. Enjoy !  |
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Post by Asparuh on Feb 23, 2009 22:50:21 GMT 3
I have another question.I respect the Magyars and i want to ask you :How close was the origin of the Bulgars and the Magyars?
I read that we had a lot common traditions and habits.
I know we used to fight a lot ;D,but there is really something which makes me belive that Bulgars and Magyars shared similar roots.
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Feb 25, 2009 1:51:39 GMT 3
The King Arpad,which remind me so much of our Bulgarian kings. Our King Simeon was also on white horse This is interesting, because Bahaeddin Ögel notes that Asian Hun commanders rode on white horses during battles, while Sultan Alp Arslan of the Greater Seljuks also rode a white horse at the Battle of Manzikert (1071). |
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Post by Asparuh on Mar 4, 2009 23:37:31 GMT 3
Hey guys,why is nobody writing about the Hungarians ?
We should get this thing moving.
Come on Hungarians have what to say about their history.
Anyway i will be happy to see new posts. ;D
Bye
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Post by laudatortemporisac on Mar 11, 2009 20:45:18 GMT 3
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Post by hjernespiser on Mar 12, 2009 0:35:04 GMT 3
Almos and Almush is too convenient. There's no other reason to suspect that they were the same person, as one fringe theory posits. Ibn-Fadlan wrote "ALMS". Russians claim this is "Almush". I always figure this word is actually related with the Turkic "Almas" or "Alp-amysh" somehow.
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Post by laudatortemporisac on Mar 12, 2009 0:41:24 GMT 3
Almos and Almush is too convenient. There's no other reason to suspect that they were the same person, as one fringe theory posits. Ibn-Fadlan wrote "ALMS". Russians claim this is "Almush". I always figure this word is actually related with the Turkic "Almas" or "Alp-amysh" somehow. Sorry if I was ambigious, of corse there was more then a century between the two Almos. Only their name was the same. |
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Mar 12, 2009 1:06:13 GMT 3
László Rásonyi thinks Hungarian Almos is a borrowing from Turkic Almuš, which is also the name used by the early 10th century iltäbär of the Volga Bulġars. He prooves that it is among the many examples of theopheric name-giving tradition of Turkic peoples.
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Post by Asparuh on Mar 12, 2009 1:38:25 GMT 3
Ok,guys ,Great ! So i finally woke up your interest. I 'm happy that somebody is on my side and it's true that Bulgars and Magyars shared similar roots in the past. Yes we did had King Amush in Volga Bulgaria. Here is a photo of him :  |
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It's most probably Turkic, or Turko-Mongolic 
