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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Sept 6, 2006 23:50:17 GMT 3
I would like to make a list of the versions of the word Tengri (God/Sky) in Altaic and some other non-Indo-European languages. Turkic: Täŋri/Teŋri, Taŋrý (in Old Anatolian; became Tanrý today), Teŋer (in Sakha if I remember correctly) Mongolian: Teŋri/Tengri, Teŋgeri/Tenggeri, Teŋer/Tenger Chinese: Tiān (T'ien) 天, pronounced Ten in the Sui Dynasty Period Japanese: Ten 天 (passed from Chinese) Sumerian: Dingir (meaning "Deity") Etruscan: Tinis (primary god in the Etruscan pantheon) So people, please share your knowledge on this topic  I would like you to give more detailed information from all the Turkic and Mongolic dialects. I also would like to know what is the word for Sky and God in the Tungusic dialects. |
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Post by Verinen Paroni on Sept 7, 2006 0:56:59 GMT 3
Finnish: Taivas
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Post by BAWIR$AQ on Sept 7, 2006 2:39:35 GMT 3
In Qazaq they use both Täñri and Täñir
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Post by horka on Sept 7, 2006 15:41:21 GMT 3
In hungarian God is Isten.
The Is word had original meaning of ancestor (Ős).
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Sept 7, 2006 20:28:22 GMT 3
The Finnish form seems to be related with Tengri  However, I had expected the Hungarian word to look similar to this Altaic word, but we have seen that it does not look so related with Tengri. That is strange because the Magyars had more relationships with the Turkic nomads  Hey wait a minute, what does the part -ten mean? |
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Post by Verinen Paroni on Sept 8, 2006 12:38:33 GMT 3
Many of our old words (not modern ones) are someway connected to Altaic words. |
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Post by horka on Sept 8, 2006 19:44:54 GMT 3
The Finnish form seems to be related with Tengri However, I had expected the Hungarian word to look similar to this Altaic word, but we have seen that it does not look so related with Tengri. That is strange because the Magyars had more relationships with the Turkic nomads Hey wait a minute, what does the part -ten mean? God. Isten having the original meaning of ancestor god. But now Isten means only God. Other simmilar words. tenger = sea ég = sky kék=blue |
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Sept 9, 2006 11:03:40 GMT 3
Ah so, Ten originially meant God? Looks exactly the same with Early Midle Chinese Ten, also looks very similar to the Turko-Mongol Tengri! Tenger looks more similar to Turkic Täŋiz (Sea). Kék looks similar to Turkic Kök (Blue) Hmm, ég looks unfamiliar to me |
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Post by kokturk on Sept 18, 2006 0:56:28 GMT 3
Ah so, Ten originially meant God? Looks exactly the same with Early Midle Chinese Ten, also looks very similar to the Turko-Mongol Tengri! Tenger looks more similar to Turkic Täŋiz (Sea). Kék looks similar to Turkic Kök (Blue) Hmm, ég looks unfamiliar to me ég is also a bit similar with gök, kök, also meaning sky. |
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Post by kokturk on Sept 18, 2006 1:00:01 GMT 3
In hungarian God is Isten. The Is word had original meaning of ancestor (Ős). Also, Is is similar to "Öz" in Turkish, meaning the pith, extract, soul, self and in some conditions ancestor. |
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Post by nemesis on Sept 22, 2006 3:55:58 GMT 3
kok tenger means blue sky in mongolian.
mongolian - english
ulaan - red
kok (tsenher) - blue
tsagaan - white
bor - brown
har - black
nogoon - green
saaral - grey
shar - yellow
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Post by Bor Chono on Sept 23, 2006 5:20:44 GMT 3
Nemesis! I guess U are Mongol!?(Why don`t U introduce yourself in "General board"-"Introduce youself" page, btw don`t forget to post your photo!  ) Tsenher(=Tsenkher) - "light blue" recently some dumb Russian lang followers called "Gay"="Tsenher"  cuz Russians call "gay"="Goluboy"="blue", In Mongolian lang "Huu"="Boy"="Son". "Bandi"="Boy"="Gay". "Bandidah"="rape a boy" or "Do the gay sex".  I don`t admire those who call "gay" ppl as "blue" cuz blue color is dear/sacret to real Mongols. Huh(=Kok, Khuh..etc) - "Dark blue" or "Deep blue". also it can be "Boobs" or verb "to suck". "U suck!"="Chi Khuh!" ;D Mongols sometimes call Tengri as "Father Tengri"="Itseg Tengri/Tenger". Also : "Lord Tengri"="Ezen Tenger" "Eternal Tengri"="Munh/Munkh Tenger"  |
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Sept 23, 2006 20:10:57 GMT 3
"Eternal Tengri"="Munh/Munkh Tenger" Yes, Möngge Tengri-yin Küchü-dür (With the power of the Eternal God) was always written on top of official letters of Mongol administrators. |
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Post by Boorchi Noyan on Sept 26, 2006 1:45:22 GMT 3
"Eternal Tengri"="Munh/Munkh Tenger" Yes, Möngge Tengri-yin Küchü-dür (With the power of the Eternal God) was always written on top of official letters of Mongol administrators. and at the beginning of The Secret History... |
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Post by balamir on Nov 24, 2006 23:28:09 GMT 3
Köktengri-Ancient God of Tengriist Turks.
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I would like you to give more detailed information from all the Turkic and Mongolic dialects.
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cuz Russians call "gay"="Goluboy"="blue", In Mongolian lang "Huu"="Boy"="Son". "Bandi"="Boy"="Gay". "Bandidah"="rape a boy" or "Do the gay sex". 
