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Post by karakhan on May 22, 2007 23:01:40 GMT 3
I believe before the Russians and Chinese taking over Turkic lands.. only Tatar, Ottoman Turkish and Chagatai had written forms and popularities. I think it would be easier to divide the Turkic languages up into 4-5 main ones.. like say instead of Kazakh, Kyrgyz, Bashkort, etc.. Kazakhs, Kyrgyz, Karakalpak, Bashkort, and Tatars should speak Kazan Tatar Uzbeks and Uighurs return to Chagatai, Turkish, Azeri and Turkmen to Anatolian Turkish. of course, even though we are all brothers, we all have too much pride to let go of our own language and accept the dialect of another how about choosing a Turkic dialect of a smaller group as a common Turkic language.. like say Kyrgyz, Altai, Khakass? lol. preferably one of the older ones closer to original Turkic.
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Post by Atabeg on May 23, 2007 0:30:26 GMT 3
The Anatolian Turkish is one of my favorite dialets of Turkic not just because I speak it but it's verry fluent and diverse
But do not confuse Anatolian Turkish with Istanbulite Turkish wicH i don't even consider proper Turkic/Turkish it's sounds so fake and .... Homo
even there "Delikanilar" young males sound like f*gs
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on May 23, 2007 0:54:04 GMT 3
But do not confuse Anatolian Turkish with Istanbulite Turkish wicH i don't even consider proper Turkic/Turkish it's sounds so fake and .... Homo even there "Delikanilar" young males sound like f*gs My native tongue is the Ýstanbul accent
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Post by Atabeg on May 23, 2007 0:56:59 GMT 3
srry but that what i think or mabey the people i hav met are just like that. I have family in Istanbul they don't talk that way but still they.... I just don't think it sounds anything like old Turkish and some of them have the nerve to make fun of peopleof anatolia
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Post by nisse on May 23, 2007 1:35:01 GMT 3
My parents hear the difference between different anatolian turkish diaclect but I dont , how big difference is there between turkish spoken in central turkey and the one in istanbul,
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2007 9:15:11 GMT 3
what if all the turkic speaking people wanted to create a new language there all the speaksrs could write and understand each other, This will have to be done before a Turk unity. I know a bunch of Turk leaders and linguistics got together in Azerbeycan a couple times, they actually formed a new Turk alphabet for all Turks, using the Latin Alphabet, but it never went further than that.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2007 9:17:03 GMT 3
well , they could recreate the chaghatai language that all turks used , why not use something that already exists I always wanted to bring back Gokturkche and the Orhun alphabet.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2007 9:19:58 GMT 3
I didnt get much form the website that you gave , it seems that nobody is interested in what he is doing, sorry to say, I dont think a single guy like him can create a language that is accepted by all turkic speakers, It's better than nothing.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2007 9:24:07 GMT 3
..i don't even consider proper Turkic/Turkish it's sounds so fake and .... Homo You're right, it's been softened up too much and now sounds very different from most other Turk languages.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2007 9:26:19 GMT 3
In my Turk World group we made a Turan constitution, which isn't finished yet. Here is what we put together for the language:
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2007 9:34:04 GMT 3
Languages
---Official Language:
1) Gokturk is the official national language.
2) The Orhun alphabet is the official national alphabet.
3) Gokturk is the language for communication through out the nation, for: the military, national media, national entertainment, communicating with minorities and different Turk tribes; All business and politics are to be held according to this law as well; All schools teach using the official language, unless certain classes are permitted to teach in the second official language of a state.
---Second Official Languages:
1) The Turk languages of a state is the second official language of that state.
2) Each second official language uses the Orhun alphabet as well. These versions of the Orhun alphabet are modified specificaly for each second official language.
3) Legal uses of second official languages are for: media and entertainment limited only within a province, personal communication between Turks of the same ethnic group while anywhere within the nation and for cultural exchange programs which must provide translations in the national language.
4) Every state has a day of national t.v. and radio time. These t.v. and radio programs only air historical, educational, cultural, musical and children's programs from the chosen province. T.V. and radio programs are presented in the second official language of the chosen state with subtitles of the national language. The rotation of days for t.v. and radio is done by alphabetical order according to the state's name.
---Other languages:
1) All other minority languages are allowed to be spoken for personal communication.
2) All minority languages will be offered to learn in schools, as an additional language other than frist two official languages.
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Post by nisse on May 23, 2007 19:32:01 GMT 3
the turkish the gökturks spoke is old and outdated, also the runic is old and outdated,
I dont think the runic would fit to turkic sounds an vocabulary today,
the solution acording to me would be to able to understand every word of turkish within the languagues, by implenemting every word of all turkish words into all the languagues, that would make things understandable much more
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on May 23, 2007 23:04:03 GMT 3
The best writing system which fits Turkic is Latin, not Turkic Runic as it has so few letters being used for so many sounds.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2007 12:56:44 GMT 3
the turkish the gökturks spoke is old and outdated, also the runic is old and outdated, I dont think the runic would fit to turkic sounds an vocabulary today, Then we should change some parts about our language accordingly.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2007 12:58:58 GMT 3
The best writing system which fits Turkic is Latin, not Turkic Runic as it has so few letters being used for so many sounds. I don't think we should use another alphabet or writing system. If the Turks unite then this would mean our cultures would need to revive as wel. A great way to do this is to use our own alphabet.
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