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Post by Verinen Paroni on Feb 17, 2007 1:14:00 GMT 3
Not victimized by government, but many other nations disliked us alot and did not want similar rights for us as they had. Not victimized by the American government? What about your previous statements? 1920's even US congress discussed about moving all Finns out of America. Yes, many senators in US congress discussed about that, it is the truth. But however they did not make any laws against us. If some thing is discussed in US congress that does not mean always that it was government action.  |
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Post by BAWIR$AQ on Feb 17, 2007 1:29:17 GMT 3
Yes, many senators in US congress discussed about that, it is the truth. But however they did not make any laws against us. Still, if you say smth, you better be able to back it up with some kind of sources of evidence. It's a mistake to expect people to believe every word you say. Nothing personal. Just being spectical, that's all. |
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Post by Verinen Paroni on Feb 17, 2007 1:39:50 GMT 3
Yes, many senators in US congress discussed about that, it is the truth. But however they did not make any laws against us. Still, if you say smth, you better be able to back it up with some kind of sources of evidence. It's a mistake to expect people to believe every word you say. Nothing personal. Just being spectical, that's all. May I ask why you are sceptical that people in US disliked Finns? |
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Post by BAWIR$AQ on Feb 17, 2007 1:49:50 GMT 3
May I ask why you are sceptical that people in US disliked Finns? Because I haven't heard about it before and, most importantly, because you haven't provided any sources when asked to. I believe that it is important to question things. It doesn't mean anything bad, it is simply a human nature. |
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Post by Verinen Paroni on Feb 17, 2007 2:02:57 GMT 3
May I ask why you are sceptical that people in US disliked Finns? Because I haven't heard about it before and, most importantly, because you haven't provided any sources when asked to. I believe that it is important to question things. It doesn't mean anything bad, it is simply a human nature. I understand your points. OK, let me explain: First Finnish in America were moved by swedes 1600's, just for punishment. They were illegal people according swedish laws. 1800's Finns caimly from West-Coast of Finland (pure Finns from there) and they had culture with blood-revenges (it is still somewhere there exist), tribal-argues, etc... And they were totally aliens in european society. And in 1918 there was Ciwil War in Finland, Red Terror and White Terror. And during and after that both sides made cruel concentration camps to prisoners from other side. And after when White Guard got victory, independent Finnish warlords started to attacks against russian occupied Finnish areas with very cruel way, even human-sacrificing, destroying many russian villages and killing everyone russian (including children) etc... And in USA my nation lived with their old ways, not according american way. |
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Post by aca on Mar 11, 2007 21:22:39 GMT 3
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Post by Atabeg on Mar 11, 2007 21:45:52 GMT 3
wow this would be awsome if i knew russian and njet I don't know it  |
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Post by aca on Mar 12, 2007 12:32:49 GMT 3
Too bad |
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Post by aca on Mar 30, 2007 20:43:14 GMT 3
Fyodor Matveyevich OkhlopkovFyodor Okhlopkov, born on March 2, 1908 died on May 28, 1968, was a Soviet sniper during World War II, credited with as many as 429 kills. He was born in the village of Krest-Khaldzhay of what is now Tomponsky Ulus of the Sakha Republic, Russia. Okhlopkov was one of the most effective snipers in the Red Army during the Winter War. He was granted the status of Hero of the Soviet Union in 1965 as well as an Order of Lenin, after complaints he had been overlooked for the citations due to his ethnicity (he was an ethnic Yakut). In 1974, a commercial cargo ship was named in his honour.  
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Post by Temüjin on Mar 30, 2007 22:56:37 GMT 3
i think there was also a famous sniper from Turkmenistan, but i can't remember his name.
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Post by Verinen Paroni on Mar 31, 2007 0:27:02 GMT 3
Fyodor Matveyevich OkhlopkovFyodor Okhlopkov, born on March 2, 1908 died on May 28, 1968, was a Soviet sniper during World War II, credited with as many as 429 kills. He was born in the village of Krest-Khaldzhay of what is now Tomponsky Ulus of the Sakha Republic, Russia. Okhlopkov was one of the most effective snipers in the Red Army during the Winter War. He was granted the status of Hero of the Soviet Union in 1965 as well as an Order of Lenin, after complaints he had been overlooked for the citations due to his ethnicity (he was an ethnic Yakut). In 1974, a commercial cargo ship was named in his honour. Winter War? Do you mean that USSR-Finnish war 1939-1940? In that war, Finnish Simo Häyhä killed alone 505 USSR-soldiers, and he was the best sniper ever. I respect Fyodor Okhlopkov, but rather I would see him in Finnish side in Winter War. |
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Post by aca on Apr 1, 2007 13:41:46 GMT 3
i think there was also a famous sniper from Turkmenistan, but i can't remember his name. Maybe Abdukhani Idrisov (349 kills) or Zhambyl Evscheyevich Tulaev (262 kills) BTW, here is The Sniper Log Book -> www.snipercentral.com/snipers.htm#WWII |
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Post by Temüjin on Apr 1, 2007 18:24:54 GMT 3
I see there are a lot of Ukrainian snipers...  |
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Post by aca on Apr 26, 2008 15:51:16 GMT 3
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Apr 27, 2008 20:55:33 GMT 3
Nice  But what about the weapon carried by the armored rider? |
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