our best friend...

[aca]

how did those differences came about? which language has the "accurate" meaning?

In case of the verb "ljubiti" I think the Russian version is more "accurate" - or in other words, the meaning of the verb "ljubiti" in Old Slavic was "to love".

I don't know why and when this verb changed it's meaning in Serbian language, but traces of it's old meaning are still present. For example in Serbian the word "love" is "ljubav" (similar to Russian "ljubov"), but our "to love" comes from a different verb - "voleti". And there are some personal names ending with -ljub, where it's meaning is "he who loves" -> Miroljub = "he who loves peace"

Well, it is just similar difference like in Finnish and Estonian languages.

In Estonian raamat means book, but in Finnish it means bible (actually raamattu).

Yes, it is something like that

[Temüjin]

i see, so where does voleti come from?

[ALTAR]

I voted for others. Because all of the countries(beside India) have been supported Turk Nations enemies and they ha their own ideas to capture or divide Turkey.

[H. İhsan Erkoç]

well, thats unfortunately not true, in fact Germany (as well as USA) is a much greater supporter of China than anything. just look at the huge sums of investment from those two countries, they are the reason China in the 21st century is actually something to worry about, and not a backwater medieval country (many parts of China actually still are). i assume the only reason Germany and USA support Tibet and so on is that they reserve for themselves the right to overthrow the monster they created themselves.

They tend to have good relationships with China because of economic profits. Otherwise, they are supporting all the major non-Han ethnic groups, especially the Tibetans and Uyghurs. Just like how they are supporting the kurds and, for examples, as they started doing in the recent years, the Laz. Germany is also the center of separatist Laz movement.

You Serbians are biased towards Americans (and of course you have your own reasons for that).

And you are biased towards the Americans in the opposite way

Well, Russians think that Russophiles are the majority among Serbs. Who's right?

The Serbs I met in Serbia were all neutral or slightly negative about Russia.

Isn't the majority of Serbs sympathetic towards Miloshevic's nationalistic regime and Yugoslavian past in general?

The Serbs are very negative about the Miloševiæ and Arkan.

[aca]

The Serbs I met in Serbia were all neutral or slightly negative about Russia.
The Serbs are very negative about the Miloševiæ and Arkan.

That's correct. Thank you.

[pantigin]

we also have the saying like that term as"tun'gan(hui) bilen dost bolsang, aypaltang yeningda bolsun"

[H. İhsan Erkoç]

Would you please give us an English translation, because posting something in non-English languages without translations is against the rules of Proboards, our free host.

[Nomad (Daz)]

Our best friend is America!!! What would have happened if they did not attack Afganistan? Probably in 2004 we would have been pulled into war with Talibans and Radical muslims. Yes American have wicked politics and they think about benefit of their own pocket rather than bright future. But they are far way rather than China and Russia. Better with land and no money rather than without land and money.

[H. İhsan Erkoç]

And that is typical American propaganda. It was the Americans who created the Taliban. It was the Americans who supported Saddam. When their job was finished with them, they just decided to screw them. Plus, they are supporting kurdish terrorism in Turkey and Iraq, for their own interests. China and Russia are at least open enemies whom you can guess what they are thinking. The USA is the real and more dangerous enemy since it acts to be friendly, but secretly tries to economicially colonize and spoil the entire World.

[Subu'atai]

Agreed

Yes they created Taliban, then invaded Afghanistan out of the pretense of 'defending the world from terror' - in which they allowed the 911 incident to happen anyways. The Hazara mongols were spared another civil war by the Americans perhaps - but the d**n Americans were the ones who put Taliban there in the first place.

Yes they also supported Saddam, then stabbed him in the back, that's old news. They support Kurdish terrorism yes, and they also support Tibetan independence (with incredibly false media) in which they want to create their own puppet state inside Asia where they can have their influence spread to east and central Asia.

With such a despicable government in place, with it's own backward racialist culture that it wants to spread, with its own propaganda claiming that they are the best nation when they are so screwed up internally, with it's own screwed up policies in which both Germany and Japan are both still facing continual disadvantaged treatries in WW2 (With Japan and it's people the worse affected, especially with the "you can not be proud, you can not be men, you must worship us Americans, this is the treaty").

With this all this crap, I would side with China or Russia against the U.S.A. anyday.

[Nomad (Daz)]

And which country will you represent?

[Subu'atai]

I feel the best friends for steppe nations are simply - other steppe nations. End of story, we may be very diverse and different today due to migrations/intermixes/religions, but in the end we all share the same Altai root, nomadic culture, and our histories are intertwined.

Outside of the steppes, note that the majority of people from other nations of this world will never understand our culture. We are simply like oil and water - only few can get to know us more then just aquaintances. Now this is just from experience from around the world:

Asia: As I said - other central-Asians
Islanders: Maori/Samoan/Tongans - all have similar values to us, tribal customs and warrior culture
Euros: Irish/Norse/Hungarian - religion and language can be a barrier though
Middle-East: Only individuals - sometimes to religion/sometimes butthurt education as is the case with Iran
Africa: Nigeria/Egypt - for some reason those I've met really admire Chingghis Khaan
Americas: Cherokee/Native-Americans - similar values, traditions and warrior culture

[nanman]

With respect to points made by Admin, Subu'atai. I got to agree that Nomad (Daz) has actually made a good point.

US is the best friend to counter Russian and Chinese influence. All three are just as bad and have committed hippocrisy.

Central Asian like Kazakhstan and Mongolia countries have been clever in seeking strategic peace with Russia and China therefore entering that SCO thing but they have been keen to set up ties with US so they don't get too close to these 2 predators for comfort.

[H. İhsan Erkoç]

Qazaqstan and Mongolia have to be closer to the US, to counter both Russia and China. However, there are never "friendships" between nations - there is only cooperation. The US is now trying to spoil these lands under the cover of so-called "bringing democracy". I think Qyrghyzstan is a good example for that.

[Subu'atai]

We'll just hedge China, Russia, and America against each other. Our true friends have to come from elsewhere - and thats final.