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Post by Nomad (Daz) on Dec 25, 2005 0:26:14 GMT 3
I don't know why but I thought that Mongols became Buddist much earlier. Can't say when really.
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Dec 25, 2005 2:22:26 GMT 3
-istân (modern form -estân) means "Land of ..." in Persian. It's the Persian form of European -ia.
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Post by Bor Chono on Dec 25, 2005 8:35:08 GMT 3
I don't know why but I thought that Mongols became Buddist much earlier. Can't say when really. Actually from time of Huns! The legend say : The Great Khaan Hubilai(founder of Yuan) summoned all powerful shamans, wizards, priests & monks from all over the world to compete with knowledge & magic. He wanted to chose right religion. Flying Red monks from Tibet won! They had the most fascinating magics like make things move, fly, show lights...etc. Also these monks told that "You can get energies from sex" And nobles liked it ;D. This was called "Secret spell, red hated religion" It wasn`t popular among mass(only among nobles) because Chinggis khaan gave right to chose religion(Freedom of belief) Even women had right to devours . Shamans sometimes can`t call spirits, however normal people can`t see it When shaman dance, and say I have cleaned your bad energy -normal people just don`t understand because they don`t feel big difference.
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Post by Nomad (Daz) on Dec 26, 2005 5:37:13 GMT 3
Hahaha That is the real democrat! Better than any western politics. Freedom of religion.
Buddism is good realigion if you read it carefully. It allows many things to do. Not everybody can understand the freedom and accept it. God is not bad and mean like in many modern religions. If we have such pleasures and pain in the world it must be gift. I know buddist don't like death but accept it as an experience through which everybody must come through.
About the shamanism. My step mothers mother is a witch in modern language but in old term she will be shaman. She sense bad energy and heals people who had a bad eye laid on. She saved my young brother from death. When I was a boy I had a bad eye laid on me and mula cured be. Have you heard of black spikes coming from body like hair 2cm long. Sharp as a nidle all over the body. In two days they fall down after they come out. Scary.
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Post by Bor Chono on Dec 26, 2005 10:26:00 GMT 3
Very interesting story! So many, metal things are in humanbody? In Mongolia shamans used(I guess now there is no such powerful shamans) little metal arrowhead like thing to kill someone. This is called "Holbogo". Flying arrowhead will kill it`s target in 1-2 hours. This arrowhead is charged by 1 soul. If your story is true where did that person found so many souls?(I mean shamans will need a lot of energy to keep them) And do these little spikes disappear when they fall off? BACK TO MAIN TOPIC : One strange thing about SOYOMBO is -Use of chinese symbol called DAO(=Yang, Yin). This symbol is Chinese symbol of Intelligence, foundation of world, male female...etc.
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Post by Bor Chono on Dec 26, 2005 10:33:36 GMT 3
Presently Chinese Yang Yin is very popular in Mongolia(Why I don`t understand ) Mongolian national TV Chinggis khaan bank Khaan newspaper Khan bank .....etc use chinese Yang,Yin as Logo=Symbol I think it is STUPIDNESS
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Post by Bor Chono on Dec 26, 2005 11:01:18 GMT 3
Actually real Mongolian symbol of A King is white Falcon! I mean : THE SYMBOL OF GREAT KHAAN Has unique shape of wings! called STRIKE POSITION ;D
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Post by Bor Chono on Dec 27, 2005 10:20:13 GMT 3
However..., I think everyone in Mongolia like Soyombo -Even aggressive nationalists. Because : Actually, for Mongols -Yang,yin is an enemy symbol -maybe the most intelligent enemy`s(ancient china) symbol. In Soyombo, yang,yin is placed in BOX.
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Post by Bor Chono on Dec 27, 2005 10:39:00 GMT 3
Then it is.... ;D
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Post by Bor Chono on Dec 27, 2005 10:47:46 GMT 3
Finally, put your symbol on top :
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Post by Bor Chono on Dec 29, 2005 7:18:27 GMT 3
BUT ;D This is the original shape of SOYOMBO -I mean the real soyombo. Has many colors(not all golden yellow or white), bit diffrent, strange shape(The fire is like smoke ) and there are no holes in middle (I mean blind yang,yin) just mix of red&white.
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Post by Bor Chono on Dec 29, 2005 7:29:17 GMT 3
-istâ®›/i] (modern form -estâ®›/i]) means "Land of ..." in Persian. It's the Persian form of European -ia. You mean : BUDDIST = LAND OF BUDDA What about "-ism" ? BUDDism SATANism SHAMANism...etc
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Post by Nomad (Daz) on Dec 29, 2005 17:09:44 GMT 3
It sounds great! Satanism- Land of Satan, hahaha
SOYOMBO! I see that triangles are not the same size! Thats very important. and benith all it stands on a big platform. Now I see whole picture like a triangle shape! I feel like something from the god curve! 1+1+2+3+5+8+13.... SOMETHING like this. Ha In Christian religion they say that the triangle is the gods shape /\ three faces! Father, Son and theHoly Spirit. But in triangle has four faces. I crack my head over that. (Coin has two faces!)
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Post by Bor Chono on Dec 31, 2005 12:27:24 GMT 3
But, traditionally pointed edges must be pointed to sky. We mongols wear pointed hat -being tall/close to sky/is good. You can get sky energy ;D Hat of warriors./Everyone who call himself warrior can wear it -I mean all Mongols/ Pointed mongol hat : "Hatguur(=pointed,spearhead,spike...etc) malgai(=hat)" Mongols say: "Person has brothers Coat has edges"-means "everything has order" Also means there must be one top.
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Post by Bor Chono on Dec 31, 2005 12:33:17 GMT 3
For example : Real moon is : But Mongolian Moon is : It is because pointed edges must be pointed up to sky.
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