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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Feb 5, 2009 13:12:36 GMT 3
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Post by Temüjin on Feb 5, 2009 21:36:25 GMT 3
yeah well there existed limtied numbers of Germanic horsemen (mostly comamnders) before knights but this was pretty much discontinued until the advent of "real" knights. one possible source of knighthood might come from Celtic feudal traditions according to one theory but i'm not very familiar with Celts. another huge factor particularly from 1000 onwards was the catholic church, a knight was the warrior of god and killed with the sanction of the clergy. all those things don't really apply to either migration-period Germanics nor contemporary Steppe people. many of those pictures show horsemen with Steppe armour, i already adressed this issue in a previous post here.
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Feb 7, 2009 1:23:44 GMT 3
Well of course the basis of the existence of knighthood had nothing to do with steppe lifestyle, it was formed mostly from Roman and Germanic traditions, with some other elements, such as the Christian Church as you mentioned. But the useage of heavily armored cavalrymen as knights had clear steppe origins, I suppose. I mean, the way the Carolingians shaped the form of early knights. Right?
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Post by Temüjin on Feb 9, 2009 22:11:40 GMT 3
the chainmail was invented by Celts and taken over by Romans as well as other people eventually. the first knights in europe wore those kind of armour. wheather or not Germanics wore lamellar armour is debattable in my opinion. apparently they wore spangenhelme though.
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Feb 10, 2009 11:52:28 GMT 3
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