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Dec 9, 2006 19:04:34 GMT 3
Post by Temüjin on Dec 9, 2006 19:04:34 GMT 3
Thanks BAWIR$! Maybe some of U ppl ask why I used swastik!. ;D Well...I hope U know that swastik is pagan symbol, symbolizes "SUN". Also by Buddist way this is symbol of "Prosperity". I think Buddism used this old symbol. Ofcouse almost every living thing live because of(=thanks to) Sun. So it is symbol of "Sun"="Life"="Prosperity". (U can see this symbol on chest of many Buddah statue.) Well...there are 2 of them! : Ask any (LOL non Cristian) Mongol! a question "Which one is Right-Sun way?"=(Mongolian)"Ali ni Nar-zuv ve?" & "Which one is Wrong-Sun way?"=(Mongolian)"Ali ni Nar-buruu ve?". By old Mongol way A is right, B is wrong.(dear member Saran can answer too ). mmh, i always thougth swastika A is Nazi and swastika B is Buddhism...
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Dec 10, 2006 0:31:29 GMT 3
Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Dec 10, 2006 0:31:29 GMT 3
Yes, I thought so too
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Dec 10, 2006 2:54:33 GMT 3
Post by Verinen Paroni on Dec 10, 2006 2:54:33 GMT 3
We Finns have used "Nazi-type" Swastika over 2000 years before Hitler.
It is our cultural symbol and we will keep that.
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Dec 10, 2006 13:24:02 GMT 3
Post by Bor Chono on Dec 10, 2006 13:24:02 GMT 3
About Swastika: Finnish Swastika means that it is heart of war-god Iku-Turso/Turisas. Man! your "Iku-Turso" sounds so close to Mongolian.! ;D Mongolian "Ikh-Durs" or maybe "Iku Dursu" mean "Great shape"="Great symbol". OR Mongolian "Ikh-Tur"="Great State" or "Push Greatly" Mongolian "Ikh-Turs"="Great fish egg"(-LOL ;D) There is still Swastika in our presidental flag and our Air Forces also uses that symbol. I hope, if it is possble, show it to us.
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Dec 10, 2006 16:29:16 GMT 3
Post by Verinen Paroni on Dec 10, 2006 16:29:16 GMT 3
Flag parade from Oulu (2006): www.ouka.fi/400kuvat/lippujuhla/IMG_7996.jpgCheck the flag in centre. And that one is presidental flag. Ikh-Turs=Great fish egg... Well, in legend Iku-Turso, son of Äijö, came from sea and fought with Väinämöinen (Creator God).
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Dec 11, 2006 20:57:40 GMT 3
Post by aca on Dec 11, 2006 20:57:40 GMT 3
Just my imagination: Feel free to modify it...
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Dec 11, 2006 23:04:11 GMT 3
Post by Boorchi Noyan on Dec 11, 2006 23:04:11 GMT 3
hmm really good...
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Dec 11, 2006 23:55:58 GMT 3
Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Dec 11, 2006 23:55:58 GMT 3
Very nice drawing my dear Yabghu
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Dec 12, 2006 0:30:47 GMT 3
Post by Temüjin on Dec 12, 2006 0:30:47 GMT 3
yeah, very nice
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Dec 12, 2006 18:33:04 GMT 3
Post by aca on Dec 12, 2006 18:33:04 GMT 3
Well... not much of a nomad flag (I think). Thanx, anyway. I have used the Kök Türk banner posted by Bawirsaq to make this flag... Maybe you can use this shape to make new banners in the future
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Dec 12, 2006 20:35:37 GMT 3
Post by kokturk on Dec 12, 2006 20:35:37 GMT 3
This is my suggestion. It is the symbol of Avshars and Avshars are the only people who can claim to be the leader of all the Steppes!
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Dec 12, 2006 20:43:34 GMT 3
Post by Atabeg on Dec 12, 2006 20:43:34 GMT 3
what?
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Dec 12, 2006 21:01:40 GMT 3
Post by Temüjin on Dec 12, 2006 21:01:40 GMT 3
This is my suggestion. It is the symbol of Avshars and Avshars are the only people who can claim to be the leader of all the Steppes! i have a question, do Turkish Afshars considder Nadir Shah as their hero?
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Dec 12, 2006 21:06:33 GMT 3
Post by kokturk on Dec 12, 2006 21:06:33 GMT 3
This is my suggestion. It is the symbol of Avshars and Avshars are the only people who can claim to be the leader of all the Steppes! i have a question, do Turkish Afshars considder Nadir Shah as their hero? The ones who are proud of being Avshar -like me- and knowing a little history, consider Nadir Shah as our hero. The other great hero of Avshars is Gâzî Mustafa Kemâl Atatürk, the founder of modern Türkiye.
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Dec 12, 2006 21:33:15 GMT 3
Post by Temüjin on Dec 12, 2006 21:33:15 GMT 3
wow, i didn't knew Atatürk was Avshar as well!
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