Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Dec 18, 2004 21:38:18 GMT 3
(Originially posted by BK at September 28, 2004)
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The ancient cities of the central asia steppe is considered to contribute to the develempent of the world heritage. Thoght that its central geografic location made the cities big and wealthy. The silk road which accorunding to historian was a economical center of the medivel world.
Such cities as , Bukhara, Samarkand, Merv, Urgench , Kashgar, tashkent , khotan ( hotan ) and fo course many more,
There are great cities of china to, but my knowledge of the is limitied.
Of course other than chinsese cities ther are cities of Iran , turkey and the arabian world, , such cities as Istanbul, Bagdad, Isfahan Antioch , Jerusalem , tripoli , kaffa( kufa) and much more ( my knowledge here is limitied to )
Anyway , I just wonder if any of you knew the size of the cities and then the cities had there greatest hight
Some pic of the cities, i choose to display Bukhara and samarkand, , There are many pictures, but I took only a few, if the topic is interesting fro you and if anyone responds I will put up some more pic,
Bukhara
Pic of bukhara, but some are posted twice, I posted them twice becasue I found a better pic ,
Anyway , some pic of Samarkand,
Hmm, I wonder whatthe text says, bY THE WAY , AREN'T SOME OF THE BUILDINGS MOSQUES, If it is then the text most be religios quotes right ,
Anyway , i feltlike I could post some pic of the one of the most famous,
couldn't you guys post some pic to of your famous city in your country , or some famous city, like I deed, and give som facts about them,
population, thecity at its hight, and son on
I have always wonder which one is the biggeist city in the medievl world,
I guess its in china but I am not sure, can you some info about it , Thanks
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(Originially posted by me at September 28, 2004)
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Hey, nice thread and great photos BK, thanks for posting
Yes, the greatest city on the Silk Road was Chang'an during the early medieval times, but I don't know which city was the greatest after the fall of the Tang Dynasty.
A note: The Samarkand of today is the one built during the 13th-14th centuries, after Chinggis Khaan destroyed the old city.
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(Originially posted by perdon at September 30, 2004)
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those pics make me homesick ,man ,well done! I went to Samarkand twice ,although i live in Tashkent.I think those building are too Iranian style!
and i got a chance to go to XI'an I guess an impotant city on the silk road in china ,but I really have to say this city are not what it should be,I mean it is dirty ,big,ugly ,and smell,well building is nice though !
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(Originially posted by me at September 30, 2004)
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Is it true that Tâjik is still the primary language of Samarkand? I heard this from many Uzbeks and Iranians
And Xi'an is ancient Chang'an, though Chang'an was larger than modern Xi'an.
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(Originially posted by BK at October 18, 2004)
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WHAT are you talking about ,
, the style of art is called islamic art and it is not Iranian , I haven't heard of any Iranian style, , thats redilcus , it is called islamic style whihc is a mix and has many subgroups and have been develpoed under different epoch, the pic that I have shown are called from the timurid Islamic art and late 17-18 centry central asian art 
I think we need more information at a high level before we can decide that, the Tajik authorities are claiming that Samarkand, Bukhara, panjikent and some more cities of uzbekistan belonging to the "eternal tajik land" of the "aryans, and so on". But one thing is for sure that the population in some major cities in Uzbekistan are bilingual in (uzbek and tajik).
The bilingualism in some major cities in Uzbekistan have been used for political purpose.
Many reason have been given. Thought that the turks in medieval times had been mixing with the population of the cities. According to the medieval sources there where mixing with the soghdianians and not with the tajik (dari-speaking people)
this subject is to big to write at this moment but if you have arguments and question I would try to reply them.
But as I said it is controversial subject. If you have any arguments, please post them
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The ancient cities of the central asia steppe is considered to contribute to the develempent of the world heritage. Thoght that its central geografic location made the cities big and wealthy. The silk road which accorunding to historian was a economical center of the medivel world.
Such cities as , Bukhara, Samarkand, Merv, Urgench , Kashgar, tashkent , khotan ( hotan ) and fo course many more,
There are great cities of china to, but my knowledge of the is limitied.
Of course other than chinsese cities ther are cities of Iran , turkey and the arabian world, , such cities as Istanbul, Bagdad, Isfahan Antioch , Jerusalem , tripoli , kaffa( kufa) and much more ( my knowledge here is limitied to )
Anyway , I just wonder if any of you knew the size of the cities and then the cities had there greatest hight
Some pic of the cities, i choose to display Bukhara and samarkand, , There are many pictures, but I took only a few, if the topic is interesting fro you and if anyone responds I will put up some more pic,
Bukhara
Pic of bukhara, but some are posted twice, I posted them twice becasue I found a better pic ,
Anyway , some pic of Samarkand,
Hmm, I wonder whatthe text says, bY THE WAY , AREN'T SOME OF THE BUILDINGS MOSQUES, If it is then the text most be religios quotes right ,
Anyway , i feltlike I could post some pic of the one of the most famous,
couldn't you guys post some pic to of your famous city in your country , or some famous city, like I deed, and give som facts about them,
population, thecity at its hight, and son on
I have always wonder which one is the biggeist city in the medievl world,
I guess its in china but I am not sure, can you some info about it , Thanks
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(Originially posted by me at September 28, 2004)
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Hey, nice thread and great photos BK, thanks for posting
Yes, the greatest city on the Silk Road was Chang'an during the early medieval times, but I don't know which city was the greatest after the fall of the Tang Dynasty.
A note: The Samarkand of today is the one built during the 13th-14th centuries, after Chinggis Khaan destroyed the old city.
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(Originially posted by perdon at September 30, 2004)
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those pics make me homesick ,man ,well done! I went to Samarkand twice ,although i live in Tashkent.I think those building are too Iranian style!
and i got a chance to go to XI'an I guess an impotant city on the silk road in china ,but I really have to say this city are not what it should be,I mean it is dirty ,big,ugly ,and smell,well building is nice though !
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(Originially posted by me at September 30, 2004)
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Is it true that Tâjik is still the primary language of Samarkand? I heard this from many Uzbeks and Iranians
And Xi'an is ancient Chang'an, though Chang'an was larger than modern Xi'an.
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(Originially posted by BK at October 18, 2004)
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those pics make me homesick ,man ,well done! I went to Samarkand twice ,although i live in Tashkent.I think those building are too Iranian style!
and i got a chance to go to XI'an I guess an impotant city on the silk road in china ,but I really have to say this city are not what it should be,I mean it is dirty ,big,ugly ,and smell,well building is nice though !
and i got a chance to go to XI'an I guess an impotant city on the silk road in china ,but I really have to say this city are not what it should be,I mean it is dirty ,big,ugly ,and smell,well building is nice though !
WHAT are you talking about ,
, the style of art is called islamic art and it is not Iranian , I haven't heard of any Iranian style, , thats redilcus , it is called islamic style whihc is a mix and has many subgroups and have been develpoed under different epoch, the pic that I have shown are called from the timurid Islamic art and late 17-18 centry central asian art 
Is it true that Tâjik is still the primary language of Samarkand? I heard this from many Uzbeks and Iranians
And Xi'an is ancient Chang'an, though Chang'an was larger than modern Xi'an.
And Xi'an is ancient Chang'an, though Chang'an was larger than modern Xi'an.
I think we need more information at a high level before we can decide that, the Tajik authorities are claiming that Samarkand, Bukhara, panjikent and some more cities of uzbekistan belonging to the "eternal tajik land" of the "aryans, and so on". But one thing is for sure that the population in some major cities in Uzbekistan are bilingual in (uzbek and tajik).
The bilingualism in some major cities in Uzbekistan have been used for political purpose.
Many reason have been given. Thought that the turks in medieval times had been mixing with the population of the cities. According to the medieval sources there where mixing with the soghdianians and not with the tajik (dari-speaking people)
this subject is to big to write at this moment but if you have arguments and question I would try to reply them.
But as I said it is controversial subject. If you have any arguments, please post them
