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Post by Azadan Januspar on Aug 12, 2008 21:49:07 GMT 3
Of the language Sakas of Central Asia and today East Turkestan the only remnants are few personal names, names of some tribes in Old Persian inscriptions and some references in ancient Greek works. Today Saka or Khotanese-Saka language is referred to the language written in Brahman writing discovered in 20th century in Khotan and some oasises of East Tukestan, these works whose major focus is on the translation of Sanskrit Buddhist works are believed to be dated from 5th to 9th century AD. Taking account of the texts found in some places in ET (Mortok, Tomshoq), it could be concluded that these dialects were spoken in 5th to 9th century Kashgar and it had lasted somehow until the end of the first millennium AD before the final replacement with Turkic languages. The matter which has to be taken into consideration is that Khoatnese could be a dialect of Saka language or it's close relative. Khotanese itself is linguistically divided into old and new Khotanese. According to E.Leumann & M.Leumann, Das nordarische (sakische) Lehrgedicht des Buddhismus, vol I-III and V.S. Vorob'ev-Desjatovsky " Novye sakskoj rukopisi "E" pp 68-71 the old Khotanese is very rich in terms of noun and verb declensions so is the Buddhist texts specially the famous E inscription. There are five to seven noun declension cases, numerous noun bases. The above-mention texts being translation of Sanskrit have a considerable amount of Sanskrit loanwords. There is a Iranic way of conjugation of the Saka verb puls- (English to ask, Greek ρωτώ, middle Persian Pursîtan) : (Oranskij, les langues irannienes, traduit par Joyce Blau, Paris Libraire C.Klincksieck, 1977) : Sing. Plu. An example of Saka text (Tomoshq dialect): "asu Dharmadāsi bārsā śaraņya cchami, dātā śaraņya cchami, sangā śaraņya cchami, vitana dritana hvänämai." translation: "I, Dharmadasi, submit to Buddha, submit to the rule (faith), submit to the society. I say this two times and three times." (The above text I guess is whispered two times in Lesiem's song "Una Terra") (H.W. Bailey, "Languages of the Saka" Handbuch der Orientalistik, op. cit, p. 149.)
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Post by Azadan Januspar on Aug 12, 2008 22:59:49 GMT 3
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Aug 13, 2008 1:45:56 GMT 3
Thank you for the share.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2008 13:42:20 GMT 3
When you refered to Saka here do you mean the Saka in northern Siberia?
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Post by Azadan Januspar on Aug 13, 2008 18:47:35 GMT 3
You mean Sakha or Yakuts? if so, such relation has not been yet proven.
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Aug 13, 2008 21:37:55 GMT 3
He refers to the Saka in Khotan, not to the Sakha (with a frictionative H, not a K), aka Yakut. The Sakha people in Siberia are probably descendends of the Qurïqan people of the Gök Türk period.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2008 11:37:27 GMT 3
You mean Sakha or Yakuts? if so, such relation has not been yet proven. The Sakha and the Yakut are the same people. They call themselves 'Sakha' but in most other languages they're called 'Yakut'. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2008 11:38:52 GMT 3
He refers to the Saka in Khotan, not to the Sakha (with a frictionative H, not a K), aka Yakut. The Sakha people in Siberia are probably descendends of the Qurïqan people of the Gök Türk period. Are the Saka in Hotan Turks? I've never heard of them. Are they a small group in that region of E.T.? |
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Aug 15, 2008 11:59:10 GMT 3
No, they were an Iranic people, before the Qarakhanid conquest of ~1000 AD, after which the region became Turkified.
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