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Post by Bor Chono on Apr 12, 2009 11:46:21 GMT 3
Oh Bor Chono, you are the man ;D ;D ;D Why don't you make such a movie about SHF? ;D ;D  |
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Post by Atabeg on Apr 12, 2009 13:38:17 GMT 3
Good stuff chono  |
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Post by Alanus on Apr 26, 2010 19:07:29 GMT 3
Hey!
Here are the two films about Temudgin.
1) Genghis Khan: to the Ends of the Earth and Sea. This was the first one, maybe the "authorized" one. It's terrible-- over-acting, formal Japanese manners, everyone looks and acts Japanese. Wonder why? Yet it won three awards. Too clean, the gurs too big so the cameraman could shoot inside. The story is over-told through grammar-school dialoge, like a school play. BUT it has correct Mongolian horses (shaggy) and the compound bows are technically correct. So too the costuming.
2) Mongol: The Rise of Genghis Khan. Directed by Sergei Bodrov. This one is gritty and mystical. Unfortunately, the horses are Kazakh, not Mongolian; and the bows are abominations which no decent archer would use. But Temudgin is well-played by Asano Tadanobu, and he is backed-up by the great Chinese actor, Sun Hong Lei. This Russian take makes the first-mentioned film look stupid.
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Post by sarmat on Apr 26, 2010 20:30:58 GMT 3
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Post by Alanus on Apr 27, 2010 6:31:17 GMT 3
Thanks for the tip on the Yakur movie. If a flick relates to the steppes, I love it-- except "King Arthur" the Dumb Movie, where we have Sarmatians named Lancelot, Bors, and Tristan. Duh!  They drag these poor Sarmatian kiddies all the way from Ukraine to Britain, and these guys are still homesick after 20 years. Bigger Duh!! And when they really got homesick, they kept shouting, "Rus! Rus!" EVEN BIGGER DUH!!! A couple of years ago, I got a Kazakh movie starring two Mexicans and Somebody Lee. (not Christopher Lee or Jet Li) Lent it to someone and never saw it again. |
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Post by sarmat on Apr 27, 2010 6:46:06 GMT 3
Thanks for the tip on the Yakur movie. If a flick relates to the steppes, I love it-- except "King Arthur" the Dumb Movie, where we have Sarmatians named Lancelot, Bors, and Tristan. Duh! They drag these poor Sarmatian kiddies all the way from Ukraine to Britain, and these guys are still homesick after 20 years. Bigger Duh!! And when they really got homesick, they kept shouting, "Rus! Rus!" EVEN BIGGER DUH!!! Yeah, the movie is stupid, but it's notable for being the only movie that has Sarmatians in it, if I'm correct. ;D And regarding the names, believe me or not, but there are many people in modern Ossetia who are trying to prove that all of those names have "Sarmatian roots." |
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Post by sarmat on Apr 27, 2010 7:13:38 GMT 3
Yeah, and about "Rus" stuff. There is a Syrian chronist of the 6th century AD who writes about a nomadic tribe of "Ros" in the prepontic Steppe. Some historians suggests that "Ros" people were remnants of or at least had some connection with Sarmatian tribes of Roxolanses and Rosomones. Also, about the "homesickness." It's believed that Steppe people had very close even intimate connection to their native steppes. There is a very beautiful poem in Russian which is called "Trava Emshan (jausan in Chagatai Turkic)" - "Wormwood grass" about Kypchaks who fled to Georgia after the wars with the Russian prince Vladimir Monomakh. Kypchaks were doing very well in Georgia and didn't want to return but there is a messager coming from the steppe and he brings with him a small pocket of dry wormwood. A khan of Kypchak smells the wormwood and he suddently recalls, how beautiful and mighty the steppe is, and he starts crying because he doesn't understand how he could forget all of those, so in the end all the Kypchaks return to their native steppe... And the story is totally based on a passage from a Mediaval Russian chronicle... So, I mean, the movie isn't that stupid as it may seem. |
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Apr 27, 2010 18:11:17 GMT 3
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Post by Subu'atai on May 1, 2010 5:30:30 GMT 3
Just saw an awesome vid before: www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJt2cy1PEQQUsing the brave-heart remix music theme, surprised it actually went together. I especially like the shaman at 2:25 to 2:40 in that vid heh. I can identify scenes from one movie - By the Will of Chingghis Khaan, but how about the others? Anyone knows? |
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on May 1, 2010 17:33:32 GMT 3
Very nice, thanx  Some of the scenes are from the new Sakha movie. |
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Post by Alanus on May 5, 2010 6:32:18 GMT 3
Yeah, the movie is stupid, but it's notable for being the only movie that has Sarmatians in it, if I'm correct. ;D And regarding the names, believe me or not, but there are many people in modern Ossetia who are trying to prove that all of those names have "Sarmatian roots." They should talk to Littleton and Malcor. ;D But you're right. King Arty is the only flick with Sarmatians in it, even if Lancelot is played by a skinny Welshman. As for the name Tristan, it's Pictish according to Geoffrey Ashe. However, I always thought it sounded a lot like Rustan, an extremely popular steppe name. |
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They drag these poor Sarmatian kiddies all the way from Ukraine to Britain, and these guys are still homesick after 20 years. Bigger Duh!! 
Some of the scenes are from the new Sakha movie.