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Post by temur on Jan 10, 2007 16:36:17 GMT 3
Both of them came from Mongolia highland. and have the same face, same weapon as well as same costumes.
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Post by balamir on Jan 10, 2007 17:26:29 GMT 3
Huns are a Turkic people,don't forget Mongolia and CA,both are motherlands of Turks-Mongols. Their costumes were steppe,you can't say that costumes were Mongolian because Steppe is including Turks,Tungus and Mongolians Turks are relatives of Mongols,so they have a relaionsip between Huns and Mongols ý think.
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Post by temur on Jan 10, 2007 17:40:03 GMT 3
Thanks my Tatar brother! Here is my another question. Does Crimean Tartar has relationship with Great Golden Herd. It was said by our history book that Crimean Tartar Kanate have close relationship with Mongol Empire.
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Post by balamir on Jan 10, 2007 17:49:44 GMT 3
Thanks my Tatar brother! Here is my another question. Does Crimean Tartar has relationship with Great Golden Herd. It was said by our history book that Crimean Tartar Kanate have close relationship with Mongol Empire. I heard Giray family(rulers of Crimean Khanate) was relatives of Mongol Golden Horde Khans. Main people of Golden Horde were Kipchaks,also Crimean Tatars are ethnicly Kipchak named Tatar,so they are relatives.Language was also same(Kipchak Turkish).
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Post by kokturk on Jan 15, 2007 1:31:15 GMT 3
Girays were descendants of The Great Qaghan.
Xiongnu people were a mixture of Mongols and Turks (in fact they were not Turks and Mongols, they were descendants of us, but they were not called Turk or Mongol.) but the administrators were Turkic.
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Post by balamir on Jan 15, 2007 8:35:15 GMT 3
Xiongnu people were a mixture of Mongols and Turks (in fact they were not Turks and Mongols, they were descendants of us, but they were not called Turk or Mongol.) but the administrators were Turkic. I am first hearing this from you
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Post by Atabeg on Jan 15, 2007 19:28:14 GMT 3
The xiongnu were a condfedration of all the Northern tribes like Turks mongolians & Tungus. Intermarriaging was verry common so one big family
btw the Scyntians were they present in the Xiangnu confederation
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Post by kokturk on Jan 15, 2007 20:50:39 GMT 3
Girays were descendants of The Great Qaghan. Xiongnu people were a mixture of Mongols and Turks (in fact they were not Turks and Mongols, they were descendants of us, but they were not called Turk or Mongol.) but the administrators were Turkic. I should say "ancestors". Sorry.
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Jan 15, 2007 21:23:42 GMT 3
The name Xi¨ngn¨² (Hsiung-nu) ÐÙÅ« has two meanings:
1) A Turkic people which ruled a large empire in Eastern Central Asia between 3rd century BC and 2nd century AD.
2) All the subjects of this empire including Turkic, Mongolic, Iranic, Tokharian and perhaps Tungusic peoples.
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Post by naaya on Jul 23, 2007 1:29:36 GMT 3
Both of them came from Mongolia highland. and have the same face, same weapon as well as same costumes. oh yes of course... the huns are turks, mongols and jurhen (manchu's) together... and when it have been sapareted in 2 the north huns are today's turks and south of course there are some left from north huns are mongols and manchu's of course there any manchu's left thoe
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Jul 26, 2007 18:17:03 GMT 3
Not true at all. The Xi¨ngn¨² ÐÙÅ« that went south into China later got Sinified, together with the Tu¨°b¨¢ ÍØ°Ï. The Xi¨ngn¨² ÐÙÅ« who remained in Mongolia probably continued to live among the empire of the Blue Turks (T¨±ju¨¦ Í»ØÊ) and at least some of them probably migrated westwards, as there is some genetical continuation between the modern Anatolian Turks and the Xi¨ngn¨² ÐÙÅ«. All of the Mongolic peoples were, instead, the descendents of the Xi¨¡nb¨¥i õr±° and who, together with the W¨±hu¨¢n žõ»¸, were the descendents of the Eastern Hu (D¨ng H¨² –|ºú).
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