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Post by hjernespiser on Apr 26, 2009 2:35:32 GMT 3
Just want to add, I think those drawings are influenced by Laszlo Gyula's hypothetical designs.
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Post by hjernespiser on Apr 26, 2009 3:47:34 GMT 3
Another search term for Google Image Search... "honfoglalas viselet".
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Apr 26, 2009 12:54:28 GMT 3
Ok, thanx  |
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Post by laudatortemporisac on Apr 26, 2009 13:09:19 GMT 3
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Post by ALTAR on Apr 26, 2009 23:18:43 GMT 3
Awesome pics and nice video. Thank you Laudatortemporisac.
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Apr 26, 2009 23:36:55 GMT 3
Very nice  |
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Post by hjernespiser on Apr 27, 2009 7:22:17 GMT 3
It's a good challenge to decide which one's are authentics  Here's the challenges! 1) There's no contemporaneous visual representations of ancient Magyars 2) There's no garments that survived burial 3) A lot of guesswork occurs based upon the placement of metallic objects like mounts and buttons My favorite is the women's headgear. No one is sure if the metallic bits are from the upturned brim of a hat or a headband. This is why I like to consider the post-Sassanian influence in Magyar fashion, what the Bulgars were probably wearing, what the Alans were probably wearing, what the Rus were probably wearing, and the Byzantine and Persian fabrics etc. The Gokturk fashion is hard to extend to the more western steppes. Sassanians didn't wear kaftans with lapels on them. (Sort of like how Mongolians of Genghis Khan's time didn't wear stepped collars.) I completely reject it when I see Magyar re-creationists wearing kaftans with what look like old Mongolian/Japanese collars or stepped collars. Magyar kaftans with the Gokturk style lapels could be possible, but are highly suspect. |
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Post by Subu'atai on Apr 27, 2009 16:39:04 GMT 3
It's strange here in Australia, I've come to meet more Hungarians recently, well 2 families (well I'm in a country town so give me a f--king break  ), they follow after the same history as my first girlfriend at 16 - "We are same people" o.O Maybe they spent too much time on Turania.com being so bored in a country town (most people here smoke marijuana to kill the boredom ), cause all this is kinda still "WTF" to me even after 8 years of meeting my first Magyar. The theory of Arpad and Uralic Magyars following after Attila's banner is plausible, but not proven. Hell I should contact my ex again (my wife will KILL ME!!!!) just to find out her opinion |
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Apr 27, 2009 20:03:40 GMT 3
It's %150 untrue. The Magyars have %0 nothing to do with the Huns.
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Post by sarmat on Apr 27, 2009 22:04:26 GMT 3
It's %150 untrue. The Magyars have %0 nothing to do with the Huns. Why couldn't Ugric tribes even in theory be a part of Hun confederation? |
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Post by sarmat on Apr 27, 2009 22:12:29 GMT 3
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Post by Subu'atai on Apr 28, 2009 11:52:03 GMT 3
^ O.O
OOOOoooook, firstly how accurate is the Hun translation?
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Post by hjernespiser on Apr 28, 2009 17:21:42 GMT 3
The "Codex of Isfahan" text is dubious. It looks promising and doesn't follow the normal pattern of linguistic fakery, but considering that the text is currently "lost", there's no possibility for any scholars to really verify it and thus renders it moot. Like this guy writes: It is the consensus of Magyar historians that there is no genuine Magyar tradition about the Huns. My tribe knows otherwise, but my tribe can be Bulgarian Turkish quite well. Some Magyar historians admit that the ruling clan of the Magyars might have come from the Hunnish federation, so the rulers might have had some tradition, but not the people. Others admit that some tradition migh have diffused from the Bulgarian Turks, but centuries later. But no genuine, original Magyar tradition. Ihsan, it's only 99%. |
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Post by sarmat on Apr 28, 2009 20:58:52 GMT 3
My question is just what makes it 99% that there were no Ugric tribes in Hun confederation?
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Apr 29, 2009 0:11:50 GMT 3
Just because the Huns ruled over some obscure forest-dwelling Finno-Ugric peoples among with hoardes of others doesn't make the Magyars the direct and only descendents of the Huns.
I'm 99.9% sure this is fake.
The more those funny Hungarians claim on the Huns, the more I am convinced that those Ugrics have clearly nothing to do with them ;D
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), they follow after the same history as my first girlfriend at 16 - "We are same people" o.O
