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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Feb 23, 2009 21:52:53 GMT 3
LOL ;D
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Post by Asparuh on Feb 23, 2009 22:19:03 GMT 3
Haha,Sorry Ihsan. Um.thank you for the answers. And yeah,Organa is like princes Lea,Hahaha. Ok.Very nice explanation about the Bulgar tribes. So,now there is no doubt that these Bulgars were ancient turkic people. Can you tell me something about this Chinese country TAN ?
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Post by Asparuh on Feb 23, 2009 23:32:16 GMT 3
Hello friends. This is a map of Bulgarian kingdom in its maxium extension with Macedonia,Albania,part of Serbia,Romania and almost all of greece. And a photo of our most succesfull king - Simeon the great.
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Post by Asparuh on Feb 23, 2009 23:33:29 GMT 3
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Post by Asparuh on Feb 24, 2009 14:53:00 GMT 3
Hello ! Here is a song i found for you.It´s a clip about Bulgaria,but with a nice song.The artist name is Reihan.I do like the song very much. www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8va72XOVv0
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Post by ALTAR on Feb 24, 2009 20:13:44 GMT 3
Hello ! Here is a song i found for you.It´s a clip about Bulgaria,but with turkish song.The artist name is Reihan.I do like the song very much. www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8va72XOVv0 The song is nice. Thank you for share. But please let me correct. This girl, Reihan isn't Turk ;D, She is Gipsy.
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Post by Asparuh on Feb 24, 2009 22:59:06 GMT 3
Ok,thanks I still like the song.
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Post by arnewise12 on Feb 24, 2009 23:05:35 GMT 3
Well its typicall persian and persian nationalist to hate turks and other. Persian regards themselfs as arians and true arians and not like those german nazis according to persian nationalist.
Why do persian hate turks and even thier own brothers like afghans. Arent afghans and persian one people or related.
If u claim that I say this of none-sense how do u explain your prevoius statmesnt made in the nadir shah thread were u call turks beast and false descents. Isnt that rasicalist or its ok for u to say so but for others its racialistl Its typicall pan-persian statments like that make me sick. U have nothingh to argume that will make your statmenst corrected or even your opinoins non racist. U are beeing tught racist statmenst and ideas since u were born and will always be a racist.
Why cant u even except that people think different , why did u call him a false descent of beasts in Nadir Shah thread, is it because he didnt have the same opionon as you. Its typicall persian politics " either u are with me or agaisnt me" thats why Iran will never be a democracy. People in the revoultion of 1979 were so fundamenatillst and anti-democratic that the choose a regime that uses laws for 1400 years ago. So next time than u try to show that everythindg and everyone is persian, please do so but no one but your own panpersian friends will believe in it.
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Feb 25, 2009 1:57:20 GMT 3
What's your problem man? And what is "u"? Does Proper english have such a word? No problem Ah sorry, forgot that. It's tha Tang (Táng / T'ang) 唐 Dynasty that ruled China between 618 and 907. Here is the Wiki article about this dynasty: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tang_DynastyIn fact, it's one of the greatest dynasties in the history of China Modification: it even has a Bulgarian version ;D bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A2%D0%B0%D0%BD
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Post by Asparuh on Feb 25, 2009 18:15:07 GMT 3
Very interesting. Well,So that Tan Dinasty was one of the factors for the confrontation between Khazars and Bulgars as it was said in another wikipedia passage.The Tan Dinasty pushed the Western Gokturk Khanate more west so they pushed us ;D.Everything is like a game in wars isn't it.Everyone fights the other. Here is the map,which for me is pretty interesting. The rerritory is like a two lands connected with a bridge. Observe.
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Feb 25, 2009 22:03:23 GMT 3
Well actually the Tang (btw it's not Tan) did not push the Western Göktürks, but it just defeated and vassalised them; the Western Göktürks just stayed where they were ;D After that, the Khazars and Bulgars became independent.
Of course I know ;D But I don't like member arnewise's useage of slang English in my forum, so I warn him.
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Post by Asparuh on Feb 25, 2009 23:10:00 GMT 3
Ok,thanks for that info Ihsan. I watched a lot of historical Bulgarian movies lately. Are the words : Tarkan,Boil,Kanar-tekin,bagatir,bagain of turk origin ?
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Post by Asparuh on Feb 25, 2009 23:23:46 GMT 3
Ok.Now some ancient Bulgarian symbols. Element from gold vase with a victorius warrior : Medalion with a rozette with ancient bulgarian writings on it : And the Madara horseman,carved in a rock near the town of Shumen,this actually became Bulgaria's historical symbol for 2008.
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Post by hjernespiser on Feb 26, 2009 2:24:32 GMT 3
First, I apologize for accidentally editing Asparuh's post. I meant to hit the "quote" button. I hope I restored it correctly. Now for my reply. Ok.Now some ancient Bulgarian symbols. Element from gold vase with a victorius warrior : This is a tough one. This is from an item in the Nagyszentmiklos treasure. What I know about the treasure hoard is that its origin is unclear. It displays clearly late Sassanian style artwork. No one is sure if it was created by Iranian artist or not. There are Turkic runes inscribed on some of the items, but the translations are still unclear and difficult to say which Turkic group they belonged to. They could have been trade items as well. Hungarians tend to claim these items as their own too and I think it has to do with the shared symbolism of Hungarians and other Turkic groups in the area.
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Feb 26, 2009 3:51:03 GMT 3
Are the words : Tarkan,Boil,Kanar-tekin,bagatir,bagain of turk origin ? Tarqan, Boyla and Baġatur are Turkic indeed. Qanar Tigin looks Turkic, but actually the origin of the title Tigin, though used by Turkic peoples on the greatest extent, is still unsolved, as it might be non-Turkic. Bagain, hmmm I couldn't recognise that
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