'Family system'

[Atabeg]

'family system'

Father = baba (Ata isn't used in Turkey anymore)
Mother = anne (ana is still used mostly in the east)

Grand father = büyük baba (büyük lit; big,grand) or dede
Grand mother = büyük anne (ana) or nene

there aren't words for greatgrand parents in turkish, in Turkish villeages Ana (mother) referes to your mother, grandmother, greatgrand mother. you just say her name and insert Ana (mother) at the end
Son = ogul
Daughter = kiz

Older brother = agabey
Younger brother = Kardes (lit. sibling)
Older sister = abla
Younger sister = baci

Grandchild = Torun (no difference between sexes)

Fathers brother = Amca or emmi
Mothers brother =Dayi

Fathers sister = Hala
Mothers sister= Teyze

nephew, niece = yegen

cousins are called cuzen(from french) in modern turkish but sometimes the old Amca oglu/ kizi is used wich means Son/daughter of my uncle. Same goes for Aunts childern only with aunt



Husband = Koca ( a wife will call her husband bey = lord )
Wife = Kari (a husband will call his wife hanim or hantun = female khan or queen)

sounds romantic


IN-LAWS

Father in-law = kayin baba (or the orginal kayinata since the persian baba has replaced the Turkic ata in moderday Turkish)
mother in-law = kayin ana or kaynana
Uncle in-law = Eniste (married to your sister or aunt)
Aun in-lawt = yenge (married to your brother or uncle)
dauther in-law = gelin ( also bride)
Son in-law = Dagmat (also groom) sometimes Güvey when the groom moves into his parents in-laws house.

Husbands older brother = kayin agabey or kayinaga(short)
Husbands brother = kayin or kayinço (just in-law lit.) (kayinbrader is used too persian influence)
Husbands sister = Görümce (if shes older she's usualy called abla)

Wifes Older brother = Kayin agabey or kayinaga(short)
Wife brother = kayin or kayinço
Wifes sister = baldiz (if shes older she's usualy called abla)

2 males married into the same family call eachother = bacanak

Older daughter in-law is called yenge by a younger one (if there 'close' she will call her abla)
Sisters in-law = Elti (see sentence above)

Friends wife = yenge

women will call her husbands male friends allways agabey (older brother)


Older male (non family 5 to 15 years older) = Agabey (older brother)
Older male (non family older than 15 years) = amca
Older female (non family 5 to 15 years older) = Abla (older sister)
Older female (non family above 60 years) = teyze (aunt mothers side) : sometimes you better call the abla because women are sensitive about age

[H. İhsan Erkoç]

Thank you for opening this nice thread

This is an indication that families and relative networks were very important for the Turkic peoples. For example, Chuvash has 60-70 different words for family members and relatives.

Note that family member terms in Old Turkic were quiet different from the ones we use now. This is one thing which makes me wonder. Some of them, however, survived in different forms (for example, Ök was another term used for "Mother" and even today, we call people who lost their mothers as "Öksüz" meaning "Motherless"). Examples that did not survive are Qaŋ (not Qan, with a nasal n) for Father and Ini for Younger Brother.

I wonder how many terms for family exist in Mongolian and Tungusic languages.

[Atabeg]

I didn't know that


I wonder when Ata got replaced by baba though in Turkish



I also updated the list

[H. İhsan Erkoç]

It must be a recent thing. Actually, sometimes I still see some people referring to their father as "Ata".

[H. İhsan Erkoç]

By the way, the word "baba" exists in the earlist written version of the Dede Qorqut Book from the 15th century.

[revanor]

Feb 1, 2008 23:58:21 GMT 3 Atabeg said:

'family system'

I will write the turkish words that are used in Hungarian too but have a different meaning

Father = apa | baba means baby in Hungarian
Mother = anya

Grand father = nagyapa (nagy: big,grand)
Grand mother = nagyanya

Néne, nény, nénike: aunt (nény is older I think and it is used in the countryside)

In Hungarian there are word for great-grandfather: dédapa
great-grandmother: dédanya
great-great-parents: ükapa/ükanya
great-great-great-parents: szépapa/szépanya (szép means: beautiful, nice, fine...)

Son = fiú (fiú also means boy)
Daughter = lány or older lyány or leány (lány: girl)

Older brother = báty, fivér (fivér is like "man-blood")
Younger brother = öcs
Older sister = nővér (like in 'fivér's' case it means woman-blood")
Younger sister = húg

Grandchild = unoka (no difference between sexes)

Fathers brother = nagybáty, nagybácsi
Mothers brother =anyai nagybáty (anyai: 'on the mother's side')

Fathers sister = Nagynéni, néne, nény
Mothers sister= the same as above

nephew, niece = unokaöcs, unokahúg (if older than 'me' it's unokabáty and unokanővér)

cousin: unokatestvér



Husband = férj (koca in Hungarian means 'sow' XD)
Wife = asszony, feleség



IN-LAWS

Father in-law = após
mother in-law = anyós
bride: meny, menyasszony
Son in-law = vej

Even less then a century ago women called the brothers of their husband 'kisebbik uram' "my smaller husband"
(in older times if the husband died, the eldest brother married the widow)

Older men -non family- are called bácsi
older women -non family- are called néni

[hjernespiser]

I think 'apa' in Hungarian is more like 'father' in English, where everyone uses the word 'dad' instead. What my Hungarian in-laws say sounds more like "aptya".

Nagyapa? Nagyanya? Never heard that. We use nagypapa and nagymama.

I think these names are more variable.

In Tyvan, older men and women who are non-family are also called "aunt" and "uncle".

[revanor]

Jan 6, 2009 23:08:26 GMT 3 hjernespiser said:

I think 'apa' in Hungarian is more like 'father' in English, where everyone uses the word 'dad' instead. What my Hungarian in-laws say sounds more like "aptya".

Nagyapa? Nagyanya? Never heard that. We use nagypapa and nagymama.

I think these names are more variable.

In Tyvan, older men and women who are non-family are also called "aunt" and "uncle".

By 'we' you mean that you're Hungarian?

[hjernespiser]

Jan 7, 2009 22:15:13 GMT 3 revanor said:

By 'we' you mean that you're Hungarian?

By 'we' I mean my family, most of whom are Hungarian, which results in the use of the words "nagymama" and "nagypapa" for my sons' Hungarian grandparents.

[revanor]

We use nagymama but it's from nagyanya. Rarely, we use it too but nagymama is the most common.

As for "nagypapa" Hmm. I never used it. And all the people I know use nagyapa.

[hjernespiser]

Maybe it is a regional thing. You're in Szeged? My in-laws are from near Sopron and Győr.

As for language, I don't know enough Hungarian to hold a conversation. And also you have to use English on this board. It is a requirement by the hosting provider, Proboards.

[H. İhsan Erkoç]

Unfortunately, I have to remove non-English content, as our dear member Hjernespiser pointed out already. Please read our rules before starting posting.