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Post by sarmat on Oct 30, 2007 21:11:59 GMT 3
Modern Russians include Finno-Ugric, Turkic and maybe Iranic blood. This is true, Russians have been under Turkic influence for a long time. And there is enough evidence of mixing with Iranian Skythians as well. However, those theories argue that actually Finnish blood makes the largest part of the ethnic composition of Russians. |
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Post by sarmat on Oct 30, 2007 21:18:56 GMT 3
Somewhere in so-called Russia, being russian is more culture than ethnicity. Real original russians are same as scandinavians (rus-varjags). Russia is not "so-called" it's a distinct country, with distinct type of civilization. Yes, the name Russia is of Germanic origin. There are basically two most reliable theories about it. First it comes from Finnish ruotsi which means Swedish, secondly the name comes from the name of German tribe Rus or Rug, which lived near Dnieper since the times of Ermanarich. However, those ancient germanic/scanidnavian people were called Rus not Russians, so the name itself is different. Although, the core of the word Russia comes from Rus, it's not identical to Rus and it is authentic with a distinct meaning. |
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Post by Balkhani on Nov 2, 2007 22:53:24 GMT 3
Ever thought that it might not be a turkic word. You should check other languages as well, it might be a lost word as well.
As the old people say - no one knows what the names of Mountains,Peaks and Rivers mean.
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Post by aca on Nov 10, 2007 14:31:56 GMT 3
Ever thought that it might not be a turkic word. You should check other languages as well, it might be a lost word as well. As the old people say - no one knows what the names of Mountains,Peaks and Rivers mean. Maybe Bulgarian? |
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Post by Balkhani on Nov 10, 2007 16:07:16 GMT 3
Could be any language of a tribe which lived there.
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Feb 18, 2009 20:20:55 GMT 3
Appearently, the correct form is Ätil and not Itil, while it is an Old Turkic word meaning "River".
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Post by mesinik on Aug 10, 2009 21:56:38 GMT 3
Ever thought that it might not be a turkic word. You should check other languages as well, it might be a lost word as well. As the old people say - no one knows what the names of Mountains,Peaks and Rivers mean. Maybe Bulgarian? I bet, "Bolgar" itself probably comes from Finno-Ugric "Volga", which might afaik be translated as "Stream" or "Very big river" |
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Post by chichak on Nov 22, 2009 19:59:17 GMT 3
Byzantine emperor Constantine Porphyrogenitus (905 -959) calls Etelküzü the new settlement of the Hungarian tribes after they shifted there from their former domain called Levedia. Linguists assume Etel was indeed an old Turkic word for river and Küzü is a Hungarian name (modern "köz"), which means 'in between'. So it meant "between the rivers". These teritory is thought to span between five rivers which he mentions (modern identifications after equality sign): Barukh = Dnieper; Kubu = Southern Bug; Trullos = Dniester; Brutos = Prut; Seretos = Siret.
Also the old turkic name of the river Volga was Etil and the Kazarian capital by the same river was called Itil.
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Nov 23, 2009 0:43:40 GMT 3
Yes, thank you for the additional info.
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