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Post by Temüjin on Apr 29, 2007 23:48:31 GMT 3
what is the symbol in the middle?
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Post by Bor Chono on May 1, 2007 16:14:19 GMT 3
what is the symbol in the middle? Hmmm... :-/I don`k know!
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Post by Bor Chono on May 2, 2007 4:53:27 GMT 3
"Khar Tugh" or "Har Tug" is the main military symbol (still today) Sometimes it is described with 4 stars. These stars shaped like David star. 6(=bad number) edged stars are symbol of "magic" The main duty of this Tug was to make enemy soldiers somehow weak.
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on May 2, 2007 14:12:58 GMT 3
Appearently, this is the one used at the battle of Legnica (Liegnitz) at September 9, 1241.
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Post by Temüjin on May 2, 2007 21:21:40 GMT 3
very interesting...
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on May 3, 2007 13:24:56 GMT 3
Old Avarian popular symbols in stone and felt from Daghestan, Northeastern Caucasia.
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Post by nisse on May 28, 2007 3:23:23 GMT 3
is it thruth that the cresent isnt a islamic symbol, but its a turkish one why do people belevie that teh crescnt is of islamic origin isnt the islamic symbol plain green
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on May 28, 2007 20:39:38 GMT 3
Islam doesn't have any symbols actually. It was the Turks who introduced the crecent-and-star to the Islamic World in the 11th century during the Säljûqid conquest.
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Post by nisse on May 28, 2007 21:09:58 GMT 3
aha , so it was the seljuks, I didnt know, thansk for the info
but didnt the seljuks have another symbols as well, the double headed eagle with a bow or did they use both
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on May 29, 2007 16:05:41 GMT 3
Yes, they also used the double headed eagle; they also used bows and arrows as symbols of political power (according to the treaty signed between Toghrïl Bäg and the Byzantine emperor, the Byzantines agreed to put a bow and arrow on the inner wall of the Arabic mosque at Konstantinopolis [Ýstanbul]). We also see many double headed eagles on their artworks.
The Säljûqids placed a crescent-and-star on the cathedral of the city of Ani after they captured it. It was the first recorded useage of crescent-and-star in the Islamic world. But we know that the Iranians and Turks used it centuries before, according to numismatic evidences.
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Post by nisse on May 29, 2007 20:45:01 GMT 3
so did the gök turks use it,
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Post by nisse on May 29, 2007 21:55:24 GMT 3
did the gök turks use it,
why did the persians use it
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on May 31, 2007 0:10:04 GMT 3
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Post by nisse on May 31, 2007 2:12:58 GMT 3
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on May 31, 2007 17:52:00 GMT 3
During the Sâsânid period. Look at their coins.
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