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Post by Bor Chono on May 5, 2006 14:19:42 GMT 3
Please put some pics ;D
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on May 7, 2006 23:32:04 GMT 3
Please explain us what your pics are
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Post by Bor Chono on May 9, 2006 12:17:42 GMT 3
Well...first pic is butterfly, second is Star. This is clouds ;
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on May 10, 2006 22:42:36 GMT 3
Are those Mongolian? Here are the different examples of the tamgha of the Ashina tribe of the Gök Türks (Tujue):
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Post by Bor Chono on May 12, 2006 12:16:39 GMT 3
Yes (butterfly) These are called HEE(=motif, ornament, pattern). Used to make things look good. They are not symbols(=TAMGA, TEMDEGE) TAMGA In this pic Dalai Lama sitting on Khaan`s throne. Behind him symbols of Mongolian tribes -meaning these tribes will follow or stand behind who would sit on the throne. I don`t want to think that some Tibetian man would considered as Khaan(=Great Ruler). However Last Mongolian Khaan (=Bogda Gegeen Javzan Damba Hutagta -long name) was Tibetian not desendant of Great Khaan. Khaan`s Tamga is called KHAS TAMGA. KHAS or HAS =SWASTIKA. Khas starts from 3 head. (Look at Shields, this pic is from movie called PRINCE TSOGTO armors, helmets, shields were collected during Manchu rule and kept in theatre, Under Soviet rule these are used in movie. But the theatre was on fire and these relics of the past disappeared -some say Russians took them.) This is called Symbol of 3 river Mongols. Symbolizes 3 river or 3 horse heads. The symbol which is called SWASTIKA(also symbol of Anti-Crist) is : Has 4 heads -This was found in Mongolia(I don`t remember were -sorry). legend say 4 horse heads symbolizes 4 horseman union MONGOL, TURK, HAMNIGAN, and (=some Europe looking ppl with blonde hair). U know this union called HUN(=Humanity). Mongolian scientists say HAS comes from HOS -means COUPLE =to unite. Ofcourse HAS existed before Huns. For example : piece of Scythian gold. Looks like there are 6 horsemen or 6 tribes maybe 6 brothers...etc. Because of Adolf Hitler this symbol is called(by Europes) SYMBOL of ANTI CRIST :
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Post by Bor Chono on May 13, 2006 14:02:57 GMT 3
These stone pics are called SUG ZURAG=Lifeless paintings. In ancient time, every tribe had own sacret animal(=Shutein Amitan). Hard to tell(=I`m not sure)...maybe images of these animals used as tribe symbols.Mostly it was RESPECT or Belief. Thinking that these animals bring good luck, or belief that humanity originated from these beasts. For mongols Wolf, Hawk, (Deer) were sacret. For a mongol it is rare to kill a hawk. Wolves are killed often. Every Mongol will call himself : A DESCENDANT OF THE GREAT BLUE WOLF(=KHUH CHONIIN UDAM). In SHoM, blood line of the Great khaan started from GOO MARAL(=beautiful deer /+Maral is also name of a star/) & BURTE CHONO also Chinuwa(=Wolf BURTE /Buryats say BURTE means Wolf, so BURTE CHONO=WOLF WOLF /) I think BURTE means something else. Maybe BURGET=Eagle. -A QUESTION : is there any simmillar word for BURTE(=maybe BURUT) in turk(Uighur, Kazak....) language?
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Post by tengrikut on May 15, 2006 18:12:23 GMT 3
yes it's börte or börü
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Post by Bor Chono on May 17, 2006 14:13:37 GMT 3
yes it's börte or börü -So what does it mean?
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Post by tengrikut on May 19, 2006 0:33:02 GMT 3
yes it's börte or börü -So what does it mean? didn't you ask what is there any word like burte börte and börü means wolf.
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on May 22, 2006 23:23:43 GMT 3
Böri is the only form of "wolf" in Old Turkic.
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Post by tengrikut on May 25, 2006 0:39:40 GMT 3
Böri is the only form of "wolf" in Old Turkic. no, not only. also börte used instead of wolf.
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Post by Bor Chono on Jun 29, 2006 6:37:29 GMT 3
So U ppl, stoped decorating something?!. ;D
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Post by tengrikut on Jun 29, 2006 17:06:59 GMT 3
it looks like th decor in one of my pic, which is taken in my ucles's home..
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2006 3:43:02 GMT 3
Böre means wolf in Uygur.
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Jun 30, 2006 20:44:32 GMT 3
Ah yes you people are right, both Börte and Börtü are also used for wolf in the Turkic dialects/languages.
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