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Post by piedadjones on Apr 28, 2015 19:55:49 GMT 3
THNX a lot for all available pictures!
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Post by Temüjin on Sept 10, 2015 17:16:21 GMT 3
Jin Dynasty:  Jurchen commander with Chinese subject soldier and captured Mongol khan  Jurchen marshal Wanyan with chinese warrior from here: www.parabellum.vzmakh.ru/n21_s3.shtml Kazakh sultan and batyr warrior (18th century) Jin and Qing dynasty:  Jurchen chief (11th century) and jurchen lancer (12th century)  commander of the guard and commander of one hundred  cavalryman of the central circuit and commander of a Jurchen garison  mandchurian standard bearer (early 17th century) with warlord of the Later Jin dynasty (early 17th century) and a young warrior from the northern Jurchen lands (late 16th - early 17th century)  commander of horse archers (first half of 18th century) with notable Qing warrior (end of 17th-early 18th century), Qing commander (first half 18th century) and Mandchurian warrior (end 17th- early 18th century) source: www.kitabhona.org.ua/libwar_armor/bobrovrazvzavo.htmlCentral Asians:  Uzbek warrior (15th-16th century) with Bukharan horseman (16th century) and Bukharan noble in armor (17th century)  Amir of Kashgar (16th-17th century) with Oirat bodyguard (early 17th century) and Kyrgyz mercenary commander (16th-17th century) source: www.kitabhona.org.ua/libwar_armor/bobrovsa.html(used a translation program and filled the gaps myself. i think someone who speaks Russian can do a better job). |
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Sept 11, 2015 1:23:38 GMT 3
Awesome, thank you very much Baysongor.
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Post by Temüjin on Sept 18, 2015 14:34:16 GMT 3
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Sept 18, 2015 21:39:05 GMT 3
Aha, I had been looking for an HD version of this painting, thanks a lot.
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Sept 18, 2015 21:41:20 GMT 3
And I always thought the painting depicted Khitans.
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Post by Temüjin on Sept 20, 2015 12:37:44 GMT 3
and it does, you can clearly tell from their hairstyle. i originally wrote Khitans too, then had a brainfart and edited it out, because the date (mid-12th century) didn't seem to match up with the Liao dynasty. the story behind the picture is that the Jurchen took the Song capital of Kaifeng, that's why they revisited this chapter of earlier Chinese history (China being at the mercy of Steppe people). it's indeed a bit confusign that they choose to depict the nomads as Khitans here, when the Jin dynasty was the real enemy at the time...
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Sept 20, 2015 14:36:29 GMT 3
I see, thanks.
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Post by Temüjin on Sept 20, 2015 15:47:36 GMT 3
yeah i was really just overthinking it...  |
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Sept 21, 2015 13:33:21 GMT 3
LOL  |
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Post by Temüjin on Sept 24, 2015 18:32:43 GMT 3
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Sept 24, 2015 19:48:27 GMT 3
Oh that famous one, thanks.
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matmohair1
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Post by matmohair1 on Sept 25, 2015 23:49:38 GMT 3
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Sept 26, 2015 1:53:34 GMT 3
From which book are these, do you know?
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Post by Temüjin on Sept 26, 2015 12:42:57 GMT 3
yeah and what do we see here, Huns?
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