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Post by cataphract on Jul 5, 2007 12:59:09 GMT 3
I assume those 2 small pictures of the saka warriors come out of a book.If so what title does the book have?
Is it possible to photocopy them for me directly out of the book and send the copies to me by mail?Scanning them out of the book and sending them by e-mail would even be better, but I don't know if you've got the possibility to do this.This way the images could be enlarged.I'll pay for all costs.I would be very grateful.
If I first download the pictures and then photocopy or scan them, a whole lot of detail is lost.If the pictures are copied or scanned right out of the book, this detail won't be lost.
Do you think that the one wearing the curious armour (breast-armour and metal skirt) is a cavalryman or an infantryman?Would it be easy to ride a horse with this skirt?
Thanks
Cataphract
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Jul 5, 2007 15:02:00 GMT 3
Do you think that the one wearing the curious armour (breast-armour and metal skirt) is a cavalryman or an infantryman?Would it be easy to ride a horse with this skirt? He looks like a cavalryman indeed. You can see such warriors on golden cups found in Scythian graves. |
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Post by Temüjin on Jul 5, 2007 22:00:06 GMT 3
unfortunately i have no idea if they are from a book or not  if they are froma book i would surely get that book. |
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Post by BAWIR$AQ on Jul 6, 2007 9:13:48 GMT 3
Which Saka pictures are you talking about?
Can you re-post them?
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Post by Temüjin on Jul 6, 2007 22:12:28 GMT 3
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Post by cataphract on Jul 6, 2007 22:16:52 GMT 3
We are talking about the 2 small pictures on page 3.
If you have no idea if the pictures are out of a book or not, where did you get hold of these pictures then? Maybe the internet?
Something about the armour the infrantryman is wearing.
I knew the Sakas or eastern Scyths used laminated bands (O-rings) to protect the 2 separate
upper legs.From this there is archaelogical evidence. I did not know however of Sakas wearing a bronze cuirass and iron armed skirt (made as a whole) which was constructed of large laminated bands covering a part of the upper legs(see image on page 3).
Can you tell me something more about the evidence of this armour on golden cups as you mentioned? Do you have pictures of this?
Greetings
Cataphract
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Post by Temüjin on Jul 6, 2007 22:54:25 GMT 3
actually i have a couple of new pics: Scythians:    Huns:   Magyar:  Pechenegs:   Qipchaq:  Mongol:  most are from a Romanian book called something like "historical warriors of Romania", it includes pics of virtually every Steppe tribe that ever dwelled on the western Steppe. |
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Post by cataphract on Jul 6, 2007 23:08:39 GMT 3
If I look carafully at the small image of the saka cavalryman, I think his upper leg protection isn't made of completely circular bands (O-rings).I see 4 bands with at one side a flat part (just beside his sword).
Can you describe me how the upper leg armour looks like, how it is constructed? Maybe you can see more detail in your picture.
Thanks
Cataphract
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Post by BAWIR$AQ on Jul 6, 2007 23:26:55 GMT 3
Great! Those pics are from the book by a Kazak military expert K.S. Ahmetjanov. I have that book. I can scan those pictures in high resolution.  |
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Jul 7, 2007 14:10:55 GMT 3
Great pictures!  |
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Post by cataphract on Jul 7, 2007 16:33:34 GMT 3
What a relieve to hear you have the book in which to find the small pictures of the Saka warriors!
Because of the peculiar form of leg armour the cav.man is wearing, the pictures are very interesting for me.
If you would be so kind to scan those pictures in high resolution and post them here or mail them to me I would be very gratefull.If you decide to mail them I can give you my mail adress.
Thanks
Greetings
Cataphract
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Jul 10, 2007 1:52:20 GMT 3
 "Picture of Our Valorous Military Repulsing the Russian Cossack Cavalry on the Bank of the Yalu River", painted by Watanabe Nobukazu, March 1904. |
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Post by cataphract on Jul 10, 2007 22:04:26 GMT 3
Great! Those pics are from the book by a Kazak military expert K.S. Ahmetjanov. I have that book. I can scan those pictures in high resolution. Dear BAWIR$AQ I'll hope you'll find the possibility to scan these small pictures of Saka warriors in high resolution and post them here or send them to me by E-mail.If there are costs involved I'll be glad to pay for them. Thanks Cataphract |
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Jul 11, 2007 19:46:16 GMT 3
The links are broken |
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Post by BAWIR$AQ on Jul 11, 2007 22:29:14 GMT 3
What a relieve to hear you have the book in which to find the small pictures of the Saka warriors! Because of the peculiar form of leg armour the cav.man is wearing, the pictures are very interesting for me. If you would be so kind to scan those pictures in high resolution and post them here or mail them to me I would be very gratefull.If you decide to mail them I can give you my mail adress. Thanks Greetings Cataphract Images by a Kazak military expert Qaliolla AhmetjanovSaka warriors5-3 centuries BC  Scythian warriors5-1 centuries BC  Sarmatian warriors6-1 centuries BC  |
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if they are froma book i would surely get that book.
