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Post by nisse on May 23, 2007 1:39:47 GMT 3
I wonder why the mongol invasion in the history books of whose countries they invaded seems to dislike them so much, not only them, also marco polo says the mongol destruction of western central asia, the khwarzmians where very cruel,
why are mongols disliked and beeing seen that way, did they really destroy and dectruct everything in theirway
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2007 9:09:44 GMT 3
They're haters....
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Post by kokturk on May 23, 2007 22:18:14 GMT 3
Marco Polo also praised Hubilai Khaan, as far as I remember. I read his book when I was 13.
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on May 23, 2007 23:09:13 GMT 3
Indeed they caused a huge amount of destruction in China, Transoxiana, Khorâsân, Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Anatolia, Georgia, Russia, Qypchaq Steppe, Poland-Silezia and Hungary. However, most of the lands they invaded later developed int busy and big trading and cultural centers.
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Post by nisse on May 25, 2007 1:41:07 GMT 3
Wastn the benefit for european powers , they could make busieness, easy with the east, hoever for the turks it was a blow
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Post by nisse on May 25, 2007 1:42:54 GMT 3
He said that in his reportings that many cities where destryoyed ,among them cities in central asia and northern afghaistan, as Balkh, nishabur, merv, urgentj,samarkand, bukhara, and other,
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Post by Bor Chono on May 25, 2007 4:05:06 GMT 3
Mongols try to speak truth & in their warning before war Mongols often wrote "If U don`t surrender & admit there will be nothing left from your town".=most didn`t believed cuz Mongols were few. It is just because at first Mongols thought we don`t need towns to collect tribute. Also most ppl who went to Mongol camp & spoke with Mongol general reported that these Mongols are short in size & have primitive armor & weapon.(It was a Mongol`s trick)
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Post by Saran on May 28, 2007 15:06:55 GMT 3
I wonder why the mongol invasion in the history books of whose countries they invaded seems to dislike them so much, not only them, also marco polo says the mongol destruction of western central asia, the khwarzmians where very cruel, why are mongols disliked and beeing seen that way, did they really destroy and dectruct everything in theirway No no brother. We love to been seen as evils. Someone calling others Evil, Devil whatever bad means actually envying them. We did what we had to and changed the world history forever, don't care what they call or name us... ;D
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Post by Saran on May 28, 2007 15:09:22 GMT 3
Mongols try to speak truth & in their warning before war Mongols often wrote "If U don`t surrender & admit there will be nothing left from your town".=most didn`t believed cuz Mongols were few... That's correct, we always warned well in advance about our forthcoming battles. This was one of Chinggis Khaan's diplomacies. The ones who got destroyed either ignored our warnings or didn't want to surrender. That's why they got what they had to get.
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Post by nisse on May 28, 2007 18:31:00 GMT 3
Interesting view,
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Post by dilisang on May 29, 2007 2:40:15 GMT 3
I read once in a book, and this sounds reasonable to me, that the Mongols system of power was built on nomadic tribes.
So, they didn't really know how to govern peasants and town's people. Also, they couldn't well integrate those people in their army as most of them couldn't even ride on a horse.
So, from a steppe warriors perspective those people were mostly useless but could turn into a threat if someone would build up a army out of them when the Mongols would have left the region.
So, as the Mongols had not much use for horseless people and fortified cities they destroyed much ot them so that they couldn't be of use for their ennemies.
And the rest of those stories is surely exaggerated as always by the perpetrators of "human warfare". ;D
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Post by Atabeg on Jun 2, 2007 1:20:55 GMT 3
Mongols try to speak truth & in their warning before war Mongols often wrote "If U don`t surrender & admit there will be nothing left from your town".=most didn`t believed cuz Mongols were few. It is just because at first Mongols thought we don`t need towns to collect tribute. Also most ppl who went to Mongol camp & spoke with Mongol general reported that these Mongols are short in size & have primitive armor & weapon.(It was a Mongol`s trick) I agree with me yabghu here. thise who surrenderd were threated not so bad
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Post by Verinen Paroni on Jun 2, 2007 21:17:45 GMT 3
Yes yes, they drink blood and eat human meat and come to your party and drink your beer... ;D ;D
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Post by dilisang on Jun 3, 2007 0:17:44 GMT 3
Maybe there is no blood and human meat at your party ... ;D
But they must be strong men ... if they can stand Finnish beer ... ;D
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Post by Bor Chono on Jun 8, 2007 4:08:19 GMT 3
Yes yes, they drink blood and eat human meat and come to your party and drink your beer... ;D ;D Only if the beer is free!
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