Speculation: Wealth of the Great Khan

[H. İhsan Erkoç]

(Originially posted by LoS at November 2, 2004)
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We all know that Genghis raided, sacked, and burned pretty much every city he encountered. Naturally, the Mongols would take all the gold out of the city before burning it. And when the Mongols finally gave up the conquered lands of their empire, I'm sure they took it back to the Steppes. So, where is Genghis' horde? It would make sense to bury it with him, so, then, where is he buried?


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(Originially posted by me at November 2, 2004)
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We all know that Genghis raided, sacked, and burned pretty much every city he encountered.

First of all, it's not just "Genghis" but Chinggis Khaan; Chinggis Khaan itself is an unbreakable title.

Second; he destroyed the towns that resisted him, he didn't touch the cities that submitted him, such as the rich Uyghur cities of the Tarim Basin.

Naturally, the Mongols would take all the gold out of the city before burning it. And when the Mongols finally gave up the conquered lands of their empire, I'm sure they took it back to the Steppes.

Most of the loots must have been distributed among the princes, generals, soldiers and the nobility.


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(Originially posted by LoS at November 2, 2004)
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It's Chinggis Khaan as the Mongols write it, Genghis is the Americanized name. Don't we just ruin everything?

Second; he destroyed the towns that resisted him, he didn't touch the cities that submitted him, such as the rich Uyghur cities of the Tarim Basin.

::Points at the "pretty much" in the quote::

Most of the loots must have been distributed among the princes, generals, soldiers and the nobility.

The loot wouldn't simply be given out to everyone. Yes, the Mongolian Soldiers and Generals and Princes and whatnot would get their share, but I don't think he was about to give it over to a group of people that joined out of pragmatism or neccesity.

If that came across as he kept it all to himself, then that's a mistake. I don't think he wouldn't give it to anyone that wasn't of the original tribes that occupied what's now Mongolia.


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(Originially posted by me at November 2, 2004)
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It's Chinggis Khaan as the Mongols write it, Genghis is the Americanized name. Don't we just ruin everything?

Chinggis Khaan is the only correct form, Genghis Khan is corrupted Persian. If you insist on using that one, than please also add "Khan" to it.


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(Originially posted by Chono at November 8, 2004)
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It was a custom to devide the loot among soldiers. And mind you that the "loot" was just a "bonus" for fighting in a war. The real wealth stayed where it was, in China, Persia etc, and was taxed until they revolted.

The taxes went to feeding people in Karakorum, financing a lavish lifestyle for the nobility, and for the general welfare of mongols.

I don't think a whole lot is buried anywhere, maybe some horse corpses, some silk and gold, but not loots of whole cities, if that's what you mean

[Nomad (Daz)]

Nomads hated gold. I belive Chingis khan also hated gold. The thing that feeded nomads was their cattle. The riches of the nomad was his family. I read about his 1/10. The most famous tax in the steppes. He took 1/10th of income. Its was the smallest tax ever in history I belive. Why because no riches of the world could protect you from enemies. Only generate hate and weakness. I read the Great Khan treasured horses. It would be fun when archeologist will find the tomb of the Khan and discover horse bones instead of riches of the world. (They also will release the great evil). Why would he need gold in underworld!!!

[Bor Chono]

Mongols like Silver more than Gold. Because it is White.

I don`t think horse was cheap. In battles many horses die, also victorious mongols would take many horses. So horse will become expensive.

[Nomad (Daz)]

Chinese also don't like gold. Jade was measured higher then gold. Same in South America. Before the Opioum war in China 1872. All trade in china was done only with silver. England had big storage of gold and non of silver so the silver index rose higher and it was unprofitable for Europe. Therefore England started the Opium war with China Empire.

Nomads liked good iron instead of weak gold. Silk and horses I think what will we fing in the tomb of the Khan. (Jade also could be) What does our friend could say if Chinese who claim that found the tomb in a Inner Mongoliya will open it? (They didn't open it because of strong spirutual belive of great evil among the leading scientist)

[Bor Chono]

But the Huns liked gold. Mongol Yuan & Zurchin Manchu changed china and they started to use silver to trade.

Who? where? what tomb?
I thought his tomb should be near his loved mountain Burkhan Haldun -In Ar Mongolia .

Yep, don`t forget the Tomb of Timur Gur Khaan I mean 1st World War.

[Nomad (Daz)]

About gold! I don't think Huns loved gold very much. I could be only as it represented sun! But if Huns liked gold don't you think then the kings and leaders of other empires is come to take it! Then the whole steppes would be on fire. Like Arabic countries. Greek thinkers left a note about nomads. People of the steppes don't have luxury that could be taken fromthem as Nomads hate luxury as luxury brings greed and war.

Tomb of the Great Khan in Inner Mongoliya. Yes I hearded in Beijing last year! Americans were very intrested in that information.

During the first world war I think someone opened something related to Alexander the Great. It was in Turkey. I think Turkes could help as here!!!
When one crazy acheologyst opened the grave of Timur the 2 World War started. The count of the 2 World War starts from 1941 Thats when Germany attacked Soviet Union. One month before the invasion the tomb was opened. Actually after that Stallin didn't allow archiologyst to continu to open graves. He became very religious about spirits.

heheheee

[H. İhsan Erkoç]

nomad said:

During the first world war I think someone opened something related to Alexander the Great. It was in Turkey. I think Turkes could help as here!!!

Osmân Hamdi Bey found a sarcophagus dating back to the early Hellenistic age (there was a battle scene where Alexandros was depicted) but IIRC it was found in the 1880s.

[Boorchi Noyan]

borchono said:

I thought his tomb should be near his loved mountain Burkhan Haldun -In Ar Mongolia .

I think so, because the Great Khan really respected that mountain. He would have wanted to be buried to a place where he loves being.