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Post by nisse on May 23, 2007 1:49:13 GMT 3
what happend in kyrgysstan after the tulip revolution, how are the kyrgyz doing now
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Post by karakhan on May 23, 2007 2:19:37 GMT 3
I liked Akayev better. It is worse now.
but Kyrgyzstan is destined for difficulties because of its geography and location, which is really why I strongly think Kyrgyzstan and Kazakhstan need to become a union together.
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on May 23, 2007 22:28:09 GMT 3
I don't think they are going to improve in any way.
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Post by nisse on May 25, 2007 1:36:23 GMT 3
Why so pessimistic , its not like central asian countries are going to be dictatorship forever,
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Post by ALTAR on Jun 13, 2007 22:02:16 GMT 3
Tulip Revolution cant make the situation better than the previous one... Kyrgyzstan is still the most poorest country in Turk Republics.
I think the best solution for our Kyrgyz brothers is Union with Kazakhstan.
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Post by tangriberdi on Jun 14, 2007 1:47:47 GMT 3
Yes Kyrgyzstan should go to integration into Kazakhstan. They have no difference but the names crated for them by Russians.
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Post by BAWIR$AQ on Jun 14, 2007 6:01:33 GMT 3
Yes Kyrgyzstan should go to integration into Kazakhstan. They have no difference but the names crated for them by Russians. Learn the history. Russians didn't create any names for Kazaks and Kyrgyzs. |
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Post by Temüjin on Jun 14, 2007 22:33:15 GMT 3
as far as i know the Russians called the Kazaks as Khirgiz and the true Khirgiz as Black Khirgiz.
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Post by BAWIR$AQ on Jun 15, 2007 0:32:15 GMT 3
as far as i know the Russians called the Kazaks as Khirgiz and the true Khirgiz as Black Khirgiz. First of all, there's a huge difference between "called" and "created". Secondly, the nickname "Kirgiz" was used for Kazaks by Russians only starting from the 18 century due to the elimination of the Enisey Kyrgyz state in Western Siberia by Dzungarians in 1703. After the Enisey Kyrgyz were gone, Russians transferred the name "Kyrgyz" to Kazaks, which resulted in the name "Kirgiz-Kaisak", shortened to "Kirgiz" in 1860s. Before the 18 century, Russians called Kazaks - "Kazak".Thirdly, as I said before, you shouldn't care so much about how Russians call other people. For instance, they still call Germans - "nemtsy", meaning "mute" and "dumb". |
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Post by Temüjin on Jun 15, 2007 20:41:04 GMT 3
OK ;D  Btw, do you have more info on the elimination of Khirgiz in 1703? |
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Jun 16, 2007 0:24:21 GMT 3
That would be a good thread in "The Khanates Period" board of our Central Asian History section  |
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