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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Nov 14, 2006 9:58:38 GMT 3
Josef Marquart, Ahmed Zeki Velidî Togan and Mehmed Fuad Köprülü talk about a Mongolic people named Qay (Qai; Togan claims them to be Turkic) mentioned in the Qarakhanid-Qara Khitai periods. Who are they? Can someone give us some information about them? When did they appear? When did they disappear? With which names were they mentioned in historical sources (Islamic and Chinese)?
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Post by balamir on Nov 30, 2006 17:09:21 GMT 3
Qai people are Turkic for Peter uncle ý remembered(may be false ý will look to book when ý find time)
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Feb 16, 2009 18:17:45 GMT 3
Ah, it seems like the Qay people mentioned in Islamic sources is probably the same with the Tatabï mentioned in the Old Turkic inscriptions and the Xi (Hsi) 奚 or Kumoxi (K'u-mo-hsi) 庫莫奚 mentioned in Chinese sources, as Louis Bazin pointed out.
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Post by Subu'atai on Mar 17, 2009 16:14:16 GMT 3
I wonder how Qay is pronounced... just curious... hehe
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Mar 17, 2009 22:24:21 GMT 3
Q is Hard K, a is like "a" in "garden", y or i is just "y" ;D
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Post by snafu on Mar 17, 2009 23:41:40 GMT 3
Did they live in the Altai? I know there were several smaller Turkic tribes in that area that were eventually absorbed into the Naimans. Rashid Ad-din mentions a Tigin tribe and a Tebgi tribe in what would become Naiman territory.
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Post by laudatortemporisac on Mar 17, 2009 23:59:36 GMT 3
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Mar 18, 2009 20:25:34 GMT 3
Chinese and Göktürk sources describe the Tatabï as living next or together with the Kitans, which means they were in the Hingan mountain range. I don't remember if Islamic sources ever describe where the Qay lived.
Yes, probably the same people.
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