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Post by BAWIR$AQ on Feb 10, 2007 10:12:43 GMT 3
Please, help me out with following questions.
When and where was the name "Tatar" first mentioned?
When and where was the name "Turk" / "Tujue" first mentioned? Is it generally accepted that "Tujue" was mentioned BEFORE "Tatar"?
Where can I read more online about the tribe of Tatar of pre-Chingis khan Mongolia?
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Post by temur on Feb 10, 2007 12:28:17 GMT 3
Tujue£¨Í»ØÊ£©was used by Chinese Tang Empire to name Turk Empire and Tukish ppls. Please, help me out with following questions. When and where was the name "Tatar" first mentioned? When and where was the name "Turk" / "Tujue" first mentioned? Is it generally accepted that "Tujue" was mentioned BEFORE "Tatar"? Where can I read more online about the tribe of Tatar of pre-Chingis khan Mongolia? |
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Post by aca on Feb 10, 2007 20:22:47 GMT 3
As far as I'm informed, the name Turk/Tujue is for the first time mentioned somewhere in the beginning of the VI century, when Chinese administration became aware of Bumin/Tumen and his activity against Toles/Tiele tribes.
I think Orkhon Inscriptions are the oldest writen document mentioning the name Tatar. I'm not sure about Chinese sources on this...
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Feb 11, 2007 2:18:18 GMT 3
When and where was the name "Tatar" first mentioned? I have no idea  When and where was the name "Turk" / "Tujue" first mentioned? It was a record in Weishu regarding the year 542 when the Blue Turks (Tujue) came down to make their ordinary raids on the border. But according to a letter written by a Blue Turk qaghan, the Blue Turk state was founded in the year 532. Is it generally accepted that "Tujue" was mentioned BEFORE "Tatar"? Possible. |
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