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Post by benjamin on Sept 16, 2010 14:48:07 GMT 3
Hi all! What sort of percentage of people that live on the steppes still live a nomadic lifestyle? Is it still quite a popular way of living in those regions or has the traditional way of living started to dwindle a little? Thank you  |
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Post by sarmat on Sept 16, 2010 22:42:04 GMT 3
Real nomadic life style exists only in Mongolia our days...
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Post by benjamin on Sept 17, 2010 3:32:47 GMT 3
Ok. And what sort of percentage of the population of Mongolia are still Nomads?
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Post by Kilij Arslan on Sept 17, 2010 14:16:45 GMT 3
"In 2002, about 30% of all households in Mongolia lived from breeding lifestock. Most herders in Mongolia follow a pattern of nomadic or semi-nomadic pastoralism." - from Wikipedia.
Still, for example in the western part of Tuva there are herders who still live in yurts you know. And what about Kazakhs, Kyrgyzes? Don't they have some traditional herding families left?
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Post by Subu'atai on Sept 17, 2010 14:55:48 GMT 3
There are also Oirats in China living as nomads, but either then that I haven't heard much about Kazakh/Kyrgyz nomads.
It's not the way I would live myself, but that's only because I've been spoiled by living comfortably in a modern country all my life heh.
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Post by sarmat on Sept 17, 2010 19:05:32 GMT 3
"In 2002, about 30% of all households in Mongolia lived from breeding lifestock. Most herders in Mongolia follow a pattern of nomadic or semi-nomadic pastoralism." - from Wikipedia. Still, for example in the western part of Tuva there are herders who still live in yurts you know. And what about Kazakhs, Kyrgyzes? Don't they have some traditional herding families left? Yes, they have, but only those who live in China and also Mongolian Kazakhs. Kazakhs and Kyrgyzes from the former Soviet Central Asia all were "sedentarized" and live now in "auls" (villages). Though, of course, people still use yurts especially in the cattle breeding farms, but they don't live the nomadic way of life anymore... |
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Sept 18, 2010 12:36:36 GMT 3
In East Turkestan there are still nomads in the Tianshan region. In Turkey, only very few Yörüks (Nomads) who still continue with that lifestyle have been left.
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Post by benjamin on Sept 19, 2010 15:49:18 GMT 3
Thanks for the replies everyone That way of living interests me a lot. It is good to hear there are still some people that have chosen to keep their traditional way of life. |
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Post by dilisang on Sept 20, 2010 1:32:52 GMT 3
Well, there are overall in the world some people who are even quite stubborn on this.  Here in England are quite a few gypsies also called "travellers". Not far from the company I work they occupied the car park of another company and the surrounding green areas with their campers and tents. They came twice. The second time removing large rocks with tractors.  Now, the whole area is fenced and the car park has gates and locks. At least, they didn't shoot with Magyar bows on my car when I passed. Only one guy of our company was bitten by a dog of them ... ;D |
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Post by Kilij Arslan on Sept 20, 2010 3:00:52 GMT 3
Heavens above  'Nomadic people (Greek: νομάδες, nomádes, "those who let pasture herds")' - and that's about it, of what this forum is about Oo Not that e.g. Pavees wouldn't be interesting issue to discuss, still they sort of don't fit here... |
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Post by hjernespiser on Sept 20, 2010 22:24:11 GMT 3
Eastern Tuva is also still nomadic to the extent that there are still families who herd reindeer in the taiga and live in the birch bark chadyrs. Western Tuva was always more conducive to the other kind of nomadism you have in mind.
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Post by Subu'atai on Sept 22, 2010 2:27:48 GMT 3
Gypsies are Romanian, not Magyar  |
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Post by sarmat on Sept 22, 2010 19:36:10 GMT 3
Gypsies are Gypsies they are not Romanian or Magyar. There are enough Gypsies in Hungary, however.
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Post by dilisang on Sept 23, 2010 1:06:46 GMT 3
Gypsies are a mixed population where the majority has been brought as slaves from the Pakistani province of Sindh or has been re-settled by the Osmans. The so-called "Travellers" in England are ethnically indigenous British people but Gypsies and Travellers often appear together. In English language, the word "nomadic" often refers to the mobility only. Someone who doesn't live on a fixed location is often called a nomad also if he doesn't drive cattle. On the other side there are companies in the UK who sell yurts for about 6000 £ but without being a nomad, a real or false one, you can put it only in your garden. My guess is also that a yurt makes only sense in climats with at least a moderate winter. If not you'll be growing too much insects with the time |
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