Proto altaic

[abdulhay]

I wonder if the early turks and mongols spoke a comman language since they are relatives since 2250 bc or something like that, that dude gumeliev can u trust his work in the altaic area of research. Is it worth spending your time to read?

[Subu'atai]

Unfortunately modern 'civilised' research does not take oral history to account mate. So on a historical sense - we'll never know.

[lamasu]

here you can find a proto-altaic dictionary:

starling.rinet.ru/cgi-bin/response.cgi?root=config&morpho=0&basename=%5Cdata%5Calt%5Caltet&first=1&on_proto=on&text_proto=&method_proto=substring&ic_proto=on&on_prnum=on&on_meaning=on&text_meaning=&method_meaning=substring&ic_meaning=on&on_rusmean=on&text_rusmean=&method_rusmean=substring&ic_rusmean=on&on_turc=on&text_turc=&method_turc=substring&ic_turc=on&on_mong=on&text_mong=&method_mong=substring&ic_mong=on&on_tung=on&text_tung=&method_tung=substring&ic_tung=on&on_kor=on&text_kor=&method_kor=substring&ic_kor=on&on_jap=on&text_jap=&method_jap=substring&ic_jap=on&on_reference=on&text_reference=&method_reference=substring&ic_reference=on&text_any=&method_any=substring&sort=proto&ic_any=on

[H. İhsan Erkoç]

That's quite an interesting attempt indeed. And very nice

[abdulhay]

That's quite an interesting attempt indeed. And very nice

its interesting indeed, is it gumliev that has done it?

[lamasu]

Jan 23, 2010 0:07:20 GMT 3 abdulhay said:

its interesting indeed, is it gumliev that has done it?

No no!

It is the internet searchable version of the "Etymological dictionary of the altaic languages" by S. Starostin, A. Dybo and O. Mudrak, all historical linguists of the moscow university, i think..

It has been published in 2003, and the paper version contains also phonetical tables of comparison, a brief description of the protoaltaic grammar and suffixes,...

The only problem is that this dictionary has 3 volumes.. and each volum costs about 900$...........

so the internet version is very, very important and useful..

[altais]

I think it's possible they spoke the one same language. I dont speak any of Turkic languages, but found many examples that could lead to that kind conclusion. It seems to be, the common words in both languages are mostly in basic, empiric sense. Also animal names, nature etc.

Eventhough, I wonder if Temuchin and Togril Khan spoke through an interpreter. Hehe. Of course, they must have spoken in the same language or at least a dialect!!!