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Post by ALTAR on Nov 9, 2008 9:16:07 GMT 3
It's Iranian and historical spelling of it, speaking of those times. Only you(I mean Persians) called there like it ;D |
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Post by Azadan Januspar on Nov 9, 2008 11:04:38 GMT 3
Speaking of historical name, it has the vowel "a" rather than "e" then its more correct and Azerbaigan is only the modern spelling, precisely is used for modern times..
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Post by Azadan Januspar on Nov 9, 2008 11:09:26 GMT 3
Besides it is very soon to presume of all the Iranians there are only left the Persians.(or like some use to say "Fars").  |
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Post by Atabeg on Nov 9, 2008 11:15:58 GMT 3
most correct form would be Azərbaycan
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Post by keaganjoelbrewer on Nov 9, 2008 13:59:53 GMT 3
And how should that be pronounced?
Currently I say it Azerbaijan,
A as in english tap
er as in english earth
ai as in english buy
an as in english aunty
Is this accurate? Or am I just another silly English-speaking person who doesn't know how to pronounce things properly? haha ;D
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Post by keaganjoelbrewer on Nov 9, 2008 14:01:36 GMT 3
Oh, and I forgot to say that stress usually goes on the 'buy' syllable, so AzerBAIjan. This is probably wrong too.
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Post by ALTAR on Nov 9, 2008 15:44:59 GMT 3
And how should that be pronounced? Currently I say it Azerbaijan, A as in english tap er as in english earth ai as in english buy an as in english aunty Is this accurate? Or am I just another silly English-speaking person who doesn't know how to pronounce things properly? haha ;D Dont take some Chavaunists serious, Keegan my dear shad! Keep saying whatever you used to spell it. ;D |
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Nov 10, 2008 22:47:05 GMT 3
And how should that be pronounced? Currently I say it Azerbaijan, A as in english tap er as in english earth ai as in english buy an as in english aunty Is this accurate? Or am I just another silly English-speaking person who doesn't know how to pronounce things properly? haha ;D Hehe  All the "a"s are pronounced like "a" in "Charles", while the "e" (Azeri ə) is like "a" in "Cat" |
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Post by Azadan Januspar on Nov 11, 2008 6:12:55 GMT 3
;D Pan-Turkists use to call Iranians as Chauvinists. The very attribute they have and don't want to be called with. But no worries that Pan-Turkists startegies and behaviours is only aimed on beginner reader who for the first time using English as a medium language trying to find out more about words like Scythian, turan etc. on the net. for introductory infos check this : www.rozanehmagazine.com/NoveDec05/aazariINDEX.HTMLThe "a" is prounounce like 'a' in cat. the case is like Aquitaine of Plantagenets and Aquitannia of Romans. Azerbaijan is a modern spelling based upon the Turkish spelling though during the time of the Safavids it was pronounced with 'a'. So speaking of that its preciser to say Azarbaygan. |
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Post by ALTAR on Nov 11, 2008 11:09:28 GMT 3
;D Pan-Turkists use to call Iranians as Chauvinists. The very attribute they have and don't want to be called with. But no worries that Pan-Turkists startegies and behaviours is only aimed on beginner reader who for the first time using English as a medium language trying to find out more about words like Scythian, turan etc. on the net. Hehehe These fishes are so wonderful. When they are always cathching by the fishhook and fisherman. All people are so wondered about Pan-Iranists so scientific theories. ;D Please wait the best theory. ;D "Turks of Iran start to talk Turkish language because Mongols put needles them " ;D Furuqi - A Pan Iranist, maybe a clown ;D |
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Post by Azadan Januspar on Nov 11, 2008 17:52:23 GMT 3
;D Pan-Turkists use to call Iranians as Chauvinists. The very attribute they have and don't want to be called with. But no worries that Pan-Turkists startegies and behaviours is only aimed on beginner reader who for the first time using English as a medium language trying to find out more about words like Scythian, turan etc. on the net. Hehehe These fishes are so wonderful. When they are always cathching by the fishhook and fisherman. All people are so wondered about Pan-Iranists so scientific theories. ;D Please wait the best theory. ;D "Turks of Iran start to talk Turkish language because Mongols put needles them " ;D Furuqi - A Pan Iranist, maybe a clown ;D That was a funny statement from an extermist no one rather than Furuqi believes so. but for the readers here it is also will be inetersting that; you should compare some funny theories of Pan-turkism by this so-called pan-Iranism statistically. You may come to this conclusion who is a really a fisher. I think it clearer more tha daylight that Pan-turkists are considered to be innovative in history with always surprising you by a bunk new theory. Minorsky once said: "Everywhere in this world if there's a some culture or language of unkown origin you can see Pan-Turkist claims on it as being Turk" |
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Post by ALTAR on Nov 11, 2008 21:54:16 GMT 3
That was a funny statement from an extermist no one rather than Furuqi believes so. but for the readers here it is also will be inetersting that; you should compare some funny theories of Pan-turkism by this so-called pan-Iranism statistically. You may come to this conclusion who is a really a fisher. I think it clearer more tha daylight that Pan-turkists are considered to be innovative in history with always surprising you by a bunk new theory. Minorsky once said: "Everywhere in this world if there's a some culture or language of unkown origin you can see Pan-Turkist claims on it as being Turk" I think general of the people like surprises besides Pan Iranists. Because Surprises show and make clear some peoples lies. Especially clowns like Furuqi and his lovely-funny lawyers ;D Pan-Turkists also can make researches about the history, cultures, languages, We dont need to permittion of Tsarist Agents. I am sure that he wanted to ban it, if he lives now ;D However, I cannot imagine how he behave after seeing Pan-Iranists ;D |
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Nov 12, 2008 0:23:38 GMT 3
Dear members,
I do not want any "pan-" ideologies in my forum. This is a serious and scientific place.
Please, back to the topic: the Qaraqoyunlu.
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Post by arnewise12 on May 20, 2009 1:45:33 GMT 3
can the qaraqoyunlu be considered same as turkmens of central asia or other
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on May 20, 2009 13:11:52 GMT 3
They were not exactly the same with the Turkmens of Central Asia because they were Anatolian Turkmens speaking Old Anatolian Turkish (which is a branch of Oghuz Turkic).
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All the "a"s are pronounced like "a" in "Charles", while the "e" (Azeri ə) is like "a" in "Cat"