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Post by Azadan Januspar on Oct 11, 2008 12:18:06 GMT 3
Yes, Scythii is the Roman form, the first one is Greek Skythoi Remember that in Classical Roman, the "c" letter is always pronounced as "k". So, for example, Caesar is not Seezer, but Kaysar (the German Kaiser and Arabic Qaysar versions are the closest to the original pronunciation). Yes that's correct. The Greeks used names Scyth, Saka and Ka generally for the nomads of Eurasian steppe, however the nomads lived in the Pontic steppe were called Scyths and those living far more east called Sakas. According to Bailey this word means "Men" and is derived from Sak meaning strong and the same is used in Rig0veda. This name the Greeks gave to the Saka nomads who invaded southern Russia. Their name also appeared in form of Ashkenaz in old testament. In the inscriptions of the Acheamenian kings their name in form of Sakâ and plural Sakâyân is frequent. Another suggested theory for the Greek name Skythoi is that this originated from a Greek name for cup or chalice due to the tradition of Scythians drinking with cups. The other thing I want to point out is that it's a mistake that we think that Achaemenians used the term Sakâ for all the nomads of the steppe; Good example is the depictions of the ambassadors to Achaemenian court we can see the envoys of Khwarazm, Margiana, Parthia, etc. in their own styles (which were very similar to that of Sakas and Achaemenians or Medians of course).
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Oct 11, 2008 14:43:32 GMT 3
Thanx for the info
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Post by Bor Chono on Jan 11, 2009 16:59:37 GMT 3
Forget about my stupidness! ;D As for word "Saka" and "Sakalin" Mongolian historians believe it is a Mongol word "Zaha" or "Tsaha" meaning "Edge" & "Corner"
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Post by Azadan Januspar on Jan 15, 2009 1:14:41 GMT 3
Nice shot man. I also suggest this paper by Oswald Szemerényi, in which he introduces rather logical etymology for the word "Saka". www.azargoshnasp.net/history/Scythians/fouroldiranianethnicnames.pdfBy the way did I tell you guys that the word "Avare" means vagabond in Persian. is it possible that Iranians seeing this people fleeing before Goekturks, used such name for them or may this process be vice versa?!
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Jan 15, 2009 19:48:20 GMT 3
Hmm never thought of that, but why not? Does the word Avare an etymology in Iranic languages? Can it be explained that way? If not, why not? ;D Btw, thanx for the share
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Post by ancalimon on May 9, 2010 2:58:16 GMT 3
Did anyone think about using the sounds AS and OK or ÖK (OK and ÖK being tamgas but I'm not sure about AS)
PS: I think there were Persians and Turks and maybe Greeks among SAKA
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on May 9, 2010 14:54:15 GMT 3
We simply can't do it, because if it was Asok or a variant of it, it would have been recorded that way.
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Post by imway on Sept 24, 2010 17:49:57 GMT 3
Scy and sak all derived from Hunguk(Korean), means "mix". Most of old words have Hunguk's root. Nobody knows that now. That is another mystery.
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Post by Temüjin on Sept 28, 2010 21:00:25 GMT 3
and how did the Greeks learned that word from the Koreans?
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Post by chimera on Oct 8, 2010 1:20:35 GMT 3
It's claimed that PIE * skua meaning "to cover. to flay a skin" is the origin. So a skin is "skinned" and pegged with "skewers", and "sceaxe" is the Saxon "big knife. sword". Norse Skuathie was a giant goddess, possibly snake of the sky. N. "skye" means "clouds", skua is a roaming sea-bird.
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Post by ancalimon on Nov 13, 2010 19:22:13 GMT 3
and how did the Greeks learned that word from the Koreans? maybe through Asia?
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