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Post by Azadan Januspar on Aug 9, 2008 13:54:31 GMT 3
Here you may mention the problems you encountered while studying history of the steppes.
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Post by Temüjin on Aug 9, 2008 22:21:14 GMT 3
lack of written sources done by Steppe peoples themselves.
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Aug 9, 2008 23:23:40 GMT 3
The Chinese language.
Plus, Temüjin Yabghu's point.
Another thing for me is that the region is far away from Turkey and it's not so easy to go there, especially to Mongolia. While writing an article or writing my thesis itself, I always get this strange feeling when I write about something that lived/happened in a place I never saw in my life.
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Post by keaganjoelbrewer on Sept 19, 2008 14:14:47 GMT 3
Need lots and lots of languages!!
Chinese, Turkish, Russian, German, Italian, French... and that's just for secondary sources... ARGH!
Also, because I am in Australia, it is very hard to get resources on Central Asian history because it is less popular here than European history.
And you have to admit though.. the general paucity of sources written by the nomads themselves does make studying them quite fun in some ways
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Post by keaganjoelbrewer on Sept 19, 2008 14:15:35 GMT 3
Also, books of primary sources going out of print..
like rashid ad-din! very frustrating
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Sept 19, 2008 20:27:01 GMT 3
Yes indeed. Still the Celestial Turks (Gök Türks / Tūjué / T'u-chüeh 突厥 / Türk Qaġanate), Uyghurs and Mongols had some sources. It's even worser with the previous ones like the Scythians-Sakas, Sarmatians, Huns (Xiōngnú / Hsiung-nu 匈奴), Ephtalites, Roúrán 柔然 (Jou-jan, a.k.a. Ruǎnruǎn / Juan-juan or Rúrú / Ju-ju 蠕蠕 ), Avars and others, who don't have anything written  That's so true too. Do you mean the English translation made by Wheeler M. Thackston Jr.? |
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Post by ALTAR on Sept 19, 2008 20:51:35 GMT 3
Main problem is The Lack of Resources in Turkish language.
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Post by arnewise12 on Oct 29, 2008 23:53:35 GMT 3
isnt it the lack of interest in the study of steppe history, I find it seems not be involved in world history at least when u read in school, thought u read little about non -european history , and its very little
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Post by duncan on Jun 27, 2010 19:01:56 GMT 3
Most all come from a non nomad point of view.
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Jun 28, 2010 21:40:53 GMT 3
Hi Duncan, welcome aboard  And yes, indeed that's a major problem we always have to face |
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Post by osman on Apr 30, 2011 15:55:07 GMT 3
Whoever needs help with his/her thesis I can help!!
Even on Reþideddin I can help
Bye now
Dr.Osman
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Post by osman on Apr 30, 2011 15:59:47 GMT 3
If you do not know nomads you may not settle up the world history!
If you do not know nomads you may not define your ancestry!
That is why european school teachers do not teach much about it cause it the will be come obvious that except Anglo-Saxons the roots of whole world rooted to Steppe Turkish culture!!!
This primeaval fact!!!!!!!!!!!
Rejection by european scholars only defer it not change!!!
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Post by benzin on May 1, 2011 1:59:03 GMT 3
We cant call it turkish culture as steppe's history goes back much more in time as even the word Türk came up.
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Post by snafu on May 1, 2011 13:24:15 GMT 3
It's not a very popular subject in America, so finding really good books on it was sometimes a pain. So many of the best books were not in English. And many of the books were old and seemed outdated. Things got a lot easier once the internet came along.
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Post by alanidragonrising on May 11, 2011 19:11:27 GMT 3
We cant call it turkish culture as steppe's history goes back much more in time as even the word Türk came up. Indeed you're right. It's closer to the culture of the mounted horse, but even then it might not cover nearly enough. |
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