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Post by cataphract on Jul 24, 2008 23:19:16 GMT 3
In Osprey's MAA 'Imperial Chinese Armies 200BC-589AD' a photo of a Northern Wei cataphract statue (p40) wearing lamellar armour can be found.
Can someone scan me this photo please?
Is this cataphract wearing a lamellar neck protector? To me it seems like this.
What kind of helmet is the warrior wearing? Are there other depictions of this kind of helmet?
Thanks for the help.
Greetings
Cataphract
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Jul 25, 2008 21:36:58 GMT 3
I think you mean this one:  You would also like these pictures:  Southern Chinese cavalryman from the same period Turkic and Chinese cavalrymen from the Táng (T'ang) 唐 period |
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Post by cataphract on Jul 26, 2008 19:46:19 GMT 3
Thanks for the pictures.
What I mean is the black/white photo on page 40 depicting a statue from a Northern Wei warrior. Statue which can be seen in the British Museum.
Greetings
Cataphract
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Jul 27, 2008 13:55:17 GMT 3
Ah ok, these ones    These are not from the book you said, but from Osprey's Attila and the Nomad Hordes. However, they fit in the description given by you. |
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Post by cataphract on Jul 28, 2008 20:24:26 GMT 3
This is the photo I was looking for. Thanks.
In my opinion he is wearing a neck protection. Am I right? Is this neck protection also made of lamellar?
I was surprised to read that the helmet was lamellar. Do they mean a leather backing covered with lamellar scales?
Hope someone can help me with my questions.
Thanks
Greetings
Cataphract
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Jul 29, 2008 15:01:00 GMT 3
Hmmm I thought it was a part of the cloak  |
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Post by Temüjin on Jul 29, 2008 21:25:06 GMT 3
which one do we talk about, first or second photograph?
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Jul 30, 2008 20:26:58 GMT 3
I think the second one.
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Post by cataphract on Jul 30, 2008 21:48:11 GMT 3
I'm talking about the first picture. You can see a neck protector (made of lamellar) running from beneath the shin upwards to his left ear. Much in the same way as a Korean neck protector (same period)
How was the helmet constructed?
Greetings
Cataphract
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Post by Temüjin on Jul 31, 2008 21:53:56 GMT 3
i agree, definately the same materiel than the rest of his armour. but to judge from such crude figures is always difficult, i prefer archaelogical finds. soemtimes the weirdest kinds of armour have been invented by modern historians by liberal interpretation of statues etc...
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