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Post by nisse on May 20, 2007 19:54:47 GMT 3
why does the man who plays ershora look like an retarted
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on May 20, 2007 23:19:09 GMT 3
I also read that novel and liked it very much  The term Manqurt is well known and widely used in Turkey. By the way, thank you for the share  |
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Post by BAWIR$AQ on May 21, 2007 21:51:32 GMT 3
You're welcome ) The term Manqurt is well known and widely used in Turkey. Does it really mean "wholesale adoption of Western approaches and the zeal for entry into the EU manifested by the elite" (Wiki)? |
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on May 22, 2007 15:54:27 GMT 3
It's used for everyone who completely forgets/rejects his/her past.
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Post by Temüjin on May 22, 2007 21:12:02 GMT 3
Ok but why did Ershora attacked his best friend who saved him and his big love, i still don't understand it...  whats the point of the movie anyways, that Kazak men shall not love Turkmen girls? is this what mankurt is about? |
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Post by BAWIR$AQ on May 22, 2007 21:51:18 GMT 3
why did Ershora attacked his best friend who saved him and his big love Because he "became like a dog to his master, not remembering anything from his past", like a mindless brute. whats the point of the movie anyways Destructiveness of mutual hatred, I guess. |
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Post by BAWIR$AQ on May 22, 2007 21:53:57 GMT 3
I want to note that in the whole movie there's no mentioning of any "Qazaqs" and "Turkmens". The whole conflict is only between two neighboring tribes, but not between the two nations.
Also, Ershora was made by mankurts not by the Turkmens directly, but by the wandering group of unknown people.
I think these were smart politically correct choices made by the creators of the movie.
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Post by nisse on May 22, 2007 22:18:12 GMT 3
well said
Turkmens and kazaks are brothers, I have never been told that or read that turkmens fought the kazaks ,
They have always been friends,
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Post by Temüjin on May 23, 2007 21:13:31 GMT 3
Because he "became like a dog to his master, not remembering anything from his past", like a mindless brute. Destructiveness of mutual hatred, I guess. in that case i understood the movie pretty well it seems, even though not knowing what mankurt is... |
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Post by nisse on May 24, 2007 15:40:24 GMT 3
I just say the movie, why is the turkmen portraited as evil ?
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Post by BAWIR$AQ on May 25, 2007 2:51:29 GMT 3
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Post by BAWIR$AQ on May 25, 2007 4:06:20 GMT 3
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Post by Temüjin on May 25, 2007 19:43:26 GMT 3
yes looks familiar... maybe Ershora without beard?
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Post by Atabeg on Jan 3, 2008 14:40:41 GMT 3
 Ottoman discription of Mankurt |
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Post by sharshuvuu on Dec 21, 2008 5:05:19 GMT 3
Aitmatov's novel had that effect not only on Turkic peoples of the USSR but on just about all. It was well known among the Latvians, who staged it. And among the Russians themselves it energized people sick of the Soviet distortions of Russian history.
Sharshuvuu
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whats the point of the movie anyways, that Kazak men shall not love Turkmen girls? is this what mankurt is about? 
