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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Sept 27, 2006 16:39:40 GMT 3
Member nemesis is already banned ;D
Poor fellow did not read the rules and he kept violating them. We do not need such weirdos in our respectful community.
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Post by Verinen Paroni on Sept 27, 2006 18:41:53 GMT 3
I say one thing to nemesis, if he sometimes reads that: if you want to talk about those things, there is propably forums for those issues/opinions, and if there is not, you can make own. www.oiratsupremacy.com is propably free, so buy that domain. ;D, or something like that...
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Post by Bor Chono on Sept 28, 2006 2:43:57 GMT 3
Maybe I was a bastard! (There are few Oirats!) Everything is started from this : I just wanted to say that 2 million was false number!.
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Sept 28, 2006 20:30:49 GMT 3
nemesis is not worthy of being an SHF member.
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Post by BAWIR$AQ on Oct 20, 2006 0:17:50 GMT 3
Djungars lost their teritory (to Kazaks) Sain baina uu (Hello), Bor Chono. Regarding your "lost their teritory", this can be quite touchy subject. Most of the territory of Oirat empire during its peak was conquered by force in 17-18 centuries. If there was any land "lost" by Oirats to Kazaks, I believe that it was re-claimed by Kazaks, who lost it earlier. But what I believe is true, is that eventually the mainland of Oirats was divided between the empires of China and Russia, and between Halha and Kazaks. What is your opinion?
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Post by Temüjin on Oct 20, 2006 23:58:54 GMT 3
what was the homeland of Oirats and what was the capital of the Oirat Khanate?
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Post by Bor Chono on Oct 23, 2006 16:17:53 GMT 3
Now I have no idea! (The point was, that they should guard the land that given by The Great Khaan, it seems like they just lost it) I`ll ask (non English speaking ;D) Oirats
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Post by BAWIR$AQ on Oct 23, 2006 20:47:31 GMT 3
they should guard the land that given by The Great Khaan Given by Genghis? The land conquered by Genghis was divided between his four sons, and Kazak khans were descendants of Jochi in particular. Oirat aristocracy was not Genghisid (Altan urug), therefore they had no legible claim over the land.
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Post by Bor Chono on Oct 28, 2006 13:09:45 GMT 3
Ok then! -They should guard the land that given by one of the sons of The Great Khaan ;D
I guess they were allowed to live somewhere! ;D
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Post by Saran on Nov 5, 2006 11:41:44 GMT 3
Wow, what a strong storm was here between Nemesis and Chono bro . Cool!
Tigin, I am a bit disappointed that you banned Nemesis rightaway, he has the right to share his info about the steppes. You should have given him some warning. He was a lotta knowledge, I admit. He reminds me of someone on asianfinest, I liked him a lot there
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Post by aca on Nov 5, 2006 18:15:19 GMT 3
Nemesis was warned, I think, but I guess his mother and father didn't teach him how to behave - and that is not our job
There are many other ways to express your disagreement, than by bad language, don't you think?
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Post by plastikglass on Feb 5, 2007 9:37:27 GMT 3
Nemesis was warned, I think, but I guess his mother and father didn't teach him how to behave - and that is not our job There are many other ways to express your disagreement, than by bad language, don't you think? What do you gain by banning members other than reducing diversity of opinion and independent thought? Uniformity like the USSR?
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Post by Temüjin on Feb 5, 2007 21:06:35 GMT 3
he was not banned because of his opinion but because of his offensive behaviour.
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Post by kokturk on Feb 6, 2007 2:38:02 GMT 3
Sorry for off topic.
Everybody should learn that "freedom of belief, thought and speech" is not freedom of "swearing, spamming, smurfing, threating someone, insulting someone or a nation.
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Post by Bor Chono on Feb 7, 2007 16:13:42 GMT 3
Nemesis was warned, I think, but I guess his mother and father didn't teach him how to behave - and that is not our job There are many other ways to express your disagreement, than by bad language, don't you think? What do you gain by banning members other than reducing diversity of opinion and independent thought? Uniformity like the USSR? Oirats have pride being patriots but they act like idiots. Oirats blame Halha that they joined Manchu. Joining Manch was will of descendants of The Great Khaan. No Mongol have right to fight the descendants of The Great khaan. If Halha allied with the Oirats it meant war with Hamnigan & Tsahar Mongols. Halha did not want war with them when Ming could benefit from it. All our history we fought with each other, when we became weak Chinese rose. Manchu is a nomad. This nomad gave our pride again slaying the Dragon again. If we say Manchu is some kind of Chinese mixed ppl we will lose our pride.-that`s all.
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