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Post by hulagu on Oct 1, 2006 16:54:12 GMT 3
Any information of wise queen Mandukhai ? tnk u
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Post by tengrikut on Oct 5, 2006 14:03:27 GMT 3
Any information of wise queen Mandukhai ? tnk u isnt mandighuai a mongol tribe
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Oct 5, 2006 14:56:17 GMT 3
Mangghutai means "From the (tribe of) Manghhut [plural form]".
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Post by Boorchi Noyan on Oct 5, 2006 21:23:34 GMT 3
Qaghan, it is not mangudai, it is mandukhai...
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Oct 6, 2006 16:11:50 GMT 3
Pardon me Mandukhai means "From the tribe/family of Mandukh".
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Post by tengrikut on Oct 8, 2006 14:33:13 GMT 3
ok then
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Post by Saran on Oct 27, 2006 15:34:33 GMT 3
Mandukhai was the only daughter of a tribe leader and at the age of 18 she was married to Manduul Khaan as the 3rd wife. But Manduul was poisoned after 3 years and the Mongol princes were struggling to become the Khaan. Then Mandukhai who was bright and brave, enthroned this 7 year old prince Batmunh as the Khaan and became his queen. So she had the chance to lead Mongolia and she did really good at it. She defeated several Ming attacks and protected Mongolia, she herfels wore the helmets and held the sword and fought with the Chinese Ming soldiers. She led Mongolia with her husband Batmunh for many years and during their reign Mongolia was united again and enpowered again. Mandukhai the wise, she is called by the Mongols now. The Wise queen gave birth to 7 children, 3 girls and 4 boys, several twins.
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Post by aca on Nov 3, 2006 21:27:34 GMT 3
So she was some kind of Mongolian Jeanne d'Arc Nice, indeed
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Post by Saran on Nov 5, 2006 11:17:57 GMT 3
So she was some kind of Mongolian Jeanne d'ArcNice, indeed She was better than Jeanne d'Arc, I have to admit. Mandukhai was a brilliant leader, wise woman, charming lady and a great warlord. It's told that Mandukhai led only 20000 Mongolian soldiers against some 100000 Ming soldiers and won.
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Post by temur on Feb 20, 2007 5:07:40 GMT 3
She is not Mongolian version of Jeann d'Arc, she is a noble and brave Queen of Mongolia. In fact , Mongols never gave up their decent right to regain their power in China. But my ancestor's dream was frustrated by first and third Ming Emperors(Zhu Yuan Zhang and Zhu di). Those two Emperor got upper hand in the war of holding decent rule in China, and nearly occupied all Mongolia. In the mid of Ming dynasty, one Mongol army(Wa le) sieged Beijing and captured Ming Emperor. It,s a great victory ;D.!!!!! So she was some kind of Mongolian Jeanne d'ArcNice, indeed
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Post by Bor Chono on Feb 23, 2007 10:24:48 GMT 3
It is very historicaly unique story. She wasn`t direct grandchild of Chinggis khaan. A women had power to control many Mongol baatars(=knight) & noble lords. Maybe she very pretty or was very unique person with powerful aura or she led the few shamanist -feminist Mongols & won. Maybe her ideas were right "only true descendant of Chinggis khaan must sit on throne" so Mongolian ppl followed her. I guess Saran knows better about her death!?. Russian took her body -I wonder if they don`t show it in their museums what the hell they hide it? or worse they already destroyed it!?
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Post by Saran on Mar 2, 2007 15:51:33 GMT 3
^She sure was very beautiful being a wife of Manduul Khaan. And she must have been very wise and had strong characters that led the Mongols follow her. Anyway, she was unique and is a Mongol heroine.
She passed away at the age of 78. I never heard that her body was taken by the Russians. Will you please let us hear more about that, Chono?
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Post by Bor Chono on Mar 3, 2007 5:07:30 GMT 3
Ppl(Mongol) who were working with Russians said we saw a big round stone in her mouth. They took it first then covered the body & took it somewhere(Ofcourse Russia!).
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