|
|
Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Sept 7, 2006 21:30:56 GMT 3
I would like to know where the White Hun tribes lived. Did they live only in Semirechie (regions between Jaxartes, Qazaq Steppe, Tianshan and Tarbaghatai) or did they also settle down in Transoxiana and get mixed with the Iranic natives?
|
|
|
|
Post by BAWIR$AQ on Sept 7, 2006 23:26:08 GMT 3
I would like to know where the White Hun tribes lived. Did they live only in Semirechie (regions between Jaxartes, Qazaq Steppe, Tianshan and Tarbaghatai) or did they also settle down in Transoxiana and get mixed with the Iranic natives? White Huns advanced all the way to Afghanistan and Pakistan. According to Armenian sources, their capital was in Balh. Here's a small article about them.  BTW, "Semirechie" ("seven rivers") is merely a Russian loan translation of the original Turkic name "Jetisu". I would appreciate if you used the correct Turkic name.  |
|
|
|
Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Sept 7, 2006 23:33:24 GMT 3
Thank you. Btw, I was not very sure about the useage of Yedisu; I thought it was an area inside Semirechie. Thank you for correcting my mistake; I shall use this Turkic name from now on  |
|
|
|
Post by BAWIR$AQ on Sept 7, 2006 23:50:32 GMT 3
Thanks "Semirechie" is a calque of "Jetisu" that appeared in Russian language in mid 19 century when South-Eastern Kazakstan was incorporated into the Russian empire. And "Jetisu" is centuries old. |
|
|
|
Post by Temüjin on Sept 9, 2006 23:27:36 GMT 3
i disagree that Chionites and Ephtalites were the same. this is what the article at wikipedia suggests.
|
|
|
|
Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Sept 9, 2006 23:48:06 GMT 3
Yes, indeed we have another discussion about the White Huns.
|
|
|
|
Post by BAWIR$AQ on Sept 10, 2006 0:36:44 GMT 3
i disagree that Chionites and Ephtalites were the same. this is what the article at wikipedia suggests. There was certainly a link. Hephthalites: ============
Hephthalite ( Greek: Ephthalite, Persian: Hayathelite, Chinese: Ye-Tai-Yi-Li-Tuo/厌带夷栗陁) is the name of the dynasty of the Haital ( Greek: Hephthal, Chinese: Yanda/厌哒/嚈噠) clan and subsequently that of the nomadic Uar-White Hun Xionites, and that of the empire that the Haital clan united and ruled over which spread across western China, Central Asia, Afghanistan, Pakistan and northwest India in the fourth through sixth centuries AD. India knew the Hephthalites by the Sanskrit name Sveta-Hūna (meaning White Huns). Armenian sources also mention a White Hun origin for the Parthian Arsaces. In India, the Hephthalites were not distinguished from their immediate predecessors and are known by the same name Huna. The Huna had already established themselves in Afghanistan and NWFP in present day Pakistan by the first half of the fifth century, and the Gupta emperor Skandagupta had repelled a Hūna invasion in 455 before the Hephthal clan came along.[/quote] ============ |
|
