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Post by Bor Chono on Sept 10, 2006 5:11:03 GMT 3
U know game Age of Empires! -in this game Japanese Samurai had bonus in close combat when it was fighting against other nations unique units. Yes Japanese martial art is known world wide. What if Steppe warrior VS Samurai. What are the chances. Who is the best? I chosed Samurai because Japs claim to be top warrior, fearless to death. Let`s get it on!!! ;D
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Post by Bor Chono on Sept 10, 2006 5:13:03 GMT 3
Please don`t hurry to answer! We need to talk first! Let`s invite some Samurais from Samurai history forum! Thanks Indeed! ;D
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Post by snafu on Sept 10, 2006 5:37:44 GMT 3
Steppe warriors fight best from a distance. Samurais fight best up close. So I think A Samurai could only win in a sword fight.
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Post by BAWIR$AQ on Sept 10, 2006 6:19:22 GMT 3
Samurai would get riddled with the arrows of the composite bow before they can even get their katana out. Although, samurais were good at horse archery, too
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2006 8:54:27 GMT 3
Over all the steppe warrior would win because, like BAWIR$AQ just said, the samuraii would be loaded of arrows before they even reach eachother. If this fight is done face to face than I'd give the trophy to the samuraii. So I can't answer this poll untill the question is more specific about the fight.
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Post by BAWIR$AQ on Sept 10, 2006 10:53:51 GMT 3
Compared to samurais, nomads weren't very good at foot (unmounted) hand-to-hand battle. Most of our strength came from horse archery and heavy cavalry.
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Post by Atabeg on Sept 10, 2006 13:34:16 GMT 3
Well we all know we as steppe people have the best archers I thinkj mongols are slight better than the turks. so they shoot them befor reaching the army the turks love close combat full galop withy a mace to the face samuari would be dead as a army no one was a match for the steppe people untill gunpowder but one on one samurai no doubt
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Sept 10, 2006 19:03:21 GMT 3
There were armored steppe cavalry who were excelled at close combat. Like Köl Tigin, brother of Bilge Qaghan, who was an expert in lance using. Steppe armored cavalry preferred fighting with lances and swords while mounted archery was the work of the light cavalry.
And we should not forget that Japanese armor was quiet flexible.
My vote goes to the Japanese Samurai because while the Japanese also practiced mobile mounted archery, the Samurai were superior to the steppe heavy cavalry in my opinion.
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Post by Atabeg on Sept 10, 2006 20:37:16 GMT 3
but nobody is a match for the steppe hordes
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Post by BAWIR$AQ on Sept 10, 2006 21:56:05 GMT 3
I thinkj mongols are slight better than the turks. Please explain what "turks" are you talking about here?
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Post by Atabeg on Sept 10, 2006 22:26:58 GMT 3
I thinkj mongols are slight better than the turks. Please explain what "turks" are you talking about here? I mean as archers mostly western turks I think.
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Sept 10, 2006 22:28:28 GMT 3
They were as good as the Mongols, trust me
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Post by Atabeg on Sept 10, 2006 22:45:12 GMT 3
They were as good as the Mongols, trust me d**n it are we good it every type of battle
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Post by Boorchi Noyan on Sept 11, 2006 2:18:50 GMT 3
They were as good as the Mongols, trust me d**n it are we good it every type of battle well I will put a link tomorrow and you will see the Turkish archers...
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Post by BAWIR$AQ on Sept 11, 2006 2:37:08 GMT 3
Please explain what "turks" are you talking about here? I mean as archers mostly western turks I think. Do you mean Oghuz Turks? Ancient Turks and many of the medieval Turkic nomads of Central Asia were excellent at archery. And for many centuries mounted archery was the main advantage of the nomadic armies. Heavy cavalry (with lances, etc) also played its role, but it was not as widespread and advanced and as the horse archery. And even during the Genghis Khan era, a considerable number of tribes under his rule in Mongolia were of Turkic origin, so what you know as Mongol army of Genghis Khan was in fact Turko-Mongol army, as it combined both ethnicities, and the name "Mongol" came from the small tribe of Temujin, which quickly rose to an all-nomadic political term, but not an ethnical name.
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