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Post by Bor Chono on Sept 28, 2009 16:54:16 GMT 3
Bor Chono, can you now give more information about this first image? 4 horses forming the symbol of swastika? Is this Mongolian symbol? Do you remember where it was found? Who used it? Yes Swastika is one of Mongol traditional symbols. It is called "Tumen nasan khee"="10 000 years old symbol". 10 000 years is almost eternity. So it is also believed to be the symbol Eternity. Swastika is also called "Khas". "Khas" is understood as "Ruler`s sign" or "Sign from sky". Chinggis khaan`s seal is called "Khas Buu Tanga".
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Post by Bor Chono on Sept 28, 2009 17:06:32 GMT 3
A golden horse!? Why not silver! Silver is better for such amulets! All amulets symbolize Light. Christian Cross(=light), Image of small Buddha(=light)...etc. Who would carry horse amulets? Someone who iwould like to save it`s soul I guess! ;D You can watch my latest video : (just read the info!(=text) then you will know why you need horse amulet for!) www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxW6YoUHkDs&feature=channel_page
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Post by sarmat on Sept 28, 2009 19:58:13 GMT 3
Bor Chono, can you now give more information about this first image? 4 horses forming the symbol of swastika? Is this Mongolian symbol? Do you remember where it was found? Who used it? Yes Swastika is one of Mongol traditional symbols. It is called "Tumen nasan khee"="10 000 years old symbol". 10 000 years is almost eternity. In Chinese right-faced swastika character also meant 10 thousand or eternity. And there was even a "Red Swastika Society" in the 1930th as an analogue of "Red Cross"
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Post by Subu'atai on Sept 29, 2009 14:43:31 GMT 3
^ I've seen those before
Many tourists think they are Nazis. You know, you can slap a Buddhist Swastika on the back of your car and people will still think you are Nazi - that's what my wife's friend did.
Think I'm going to find myself a swastika to slap at the back of my car just to entertain myself.
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Post by Oorvan on Oct 9, 2009 10:48:25 GMT 3
Bor Chono, can you translate this Mongolian script?
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Post by Subu'atai on Oct 10, 2009 19:12:52 GMT 3
That's it, I'm slapping a swastika symbol on the back of my car, just to entertain myself with the reaction from 95% of the rather ignorant Anglo-Australian population. Funny too, I'm already a skinhead, a swastika on the back of my car would do great
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Post by sarmat on Oct 10, 2009 19:49:20 GMT 3
Why are you doing this?
Symbols would mean different things in different parts of the world. Of course, it's fine to display Buddhism swastika in China, but in the Western world it means something different. And the Westerners aren't obliged to know that other meaning by default. It just could create a misleading impression.
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Post by Subu'atai on Oct 11, 2009 13:56:02 GMT 3
For entertainment until I got bored of it
That's the whole point! ;D
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Post by Bor Chono on Oct 26, 2009 8:37:18 GMT 3
Bor Chono, can you translate this Mongolian script? hehe... it reads Has Ba Tumen nasan. Has (Khas) = swastika Ba = and , also Tumen nasan = 10000 years old. Btw I don`t like such art! It is something new in Mongolia. This is imitation of Chinese art. Mongols would never hang scripts/poems on walls!
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Post by Modu on Oct 28, 2009 18:01:23 GMT 3
in Turkish :
"Ba" in old Turkish " Ba", Today " Ve " B --> V
"Tumen " in ol Turkish and now " Tumen " ( Tumen's "u" reading french's "ue" )
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Oct 28, 2009 23:46:50 GMT 3
"Ve" (And) in originally Arabic, not Turkic.
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Post by Subu'atai on Nov 11, 2009 15:14:26 GMT 3
Yes the art below the "swastika" and above the script is Chinese indeed, my wife can easily identify them - its common amongst Chinese fences. However if this is old stuff, remember that once we ruled China, yet not wiped them out, hence their culture has allowed for much cultural exchange.
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Post by MagyarTanhu on Mar 8, 2010 19:05:49 GMT 3
in Turkish : "Ba" in old Turkish " Ba", Today " Ve " B --> V "Tumen " in ol Turkish and now " Tumen " ( Tumen's "u" reading french's "ue" ) so, pls what does it mean "Tümen" ? 10,000 ? can it mean also concentrated, lot of or strong?
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Post by ALTAR on Mar 9, 2010 0:05:03 GMT 3
You are right, MagyarTanhu.
Tumen means an army division is consisted of 10000 soldier in Turkish and also Mongolian. It was firstly used by Asian Huns. And still using as a military term in Modern Turkish Army at now too.
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Post by MagyarTanhu on Mar 9, 2010 13:34:15 GMT 3
You are right, MagyarTanhu. Tumen means an army division is consisted of 10000 soldier in Turkish and also Mongolian. It was firstly used by Asian Huns. And still using as a military term in Modern Turkish Army at now too. Yo, thank you but do you use it as for - do not misconceive it - like characterisitc - for example in the case of industrial terms - methylated spirits - almost 100% alcohol - that is like tumen - strong, concentrated?
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