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Post by sarmat on Mar 9, 2009 23:22:58 GMT 3
I'm not sure what was the original Chinese term. That was the Russian term that Palladii, a famous Russian Sinologist used to translate the sentence from the Yuan chronicle.
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Mar 10, 2009 2:21:04 GMT 3
I can check it if you can give me where exactly (the chapter and page) the info is found in Yuanshi 元史.
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Post by sarmat on Mar 10, 2009 6:42:11 GMT 3
Do you read Œ³Žj in •¶Œ¾•¶ H
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Post by sarmat on Mar 10, 2009 19:07:34 GMT 3
The Russian regiment was officially created during the reign of Tug-Temur in 1330. It's full name of it in Pinyin should be something like Xuanzhong Eluosi wei qinjun(Ñþàíü÷æóí ýëîñû âýé öèíüöçþíü) unfortunately, the Russian article doesn't give the Chinese characters just the transcription. The translation that they gave in Russian for that name was "Guarding Regiment of Russians glorious for its loyalty." In Yuanshi the records about it should be in chapters describing events between 1330 and 1334 AD, namely the above name should be in year 1330. Too bad the Russian source doesn't give the exact pages in the chronicle. Here is the full article for those who can read Russian: www.gio.gov.tw/info/nation/russia/1997/03/p56-59.htm
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Mar 11, 2009 1:13:23 GMT 3
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Post by ALTAR on Mar 12, 2009 0:00:44 GMT 3
I read at somewhere that Cumans of Hungaria hold their original Turkic language until the beginning of 20th century.
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Post by H. İhsan Erkoç on Mar 12, 2009 1:02:29 GMT 3
To my knowledge (as far as I remember from the Özü Türk documentary of TRT), after forced to become sedentary and converted to Christianity, the Cumans in Hungary mostly lost their language in the 13th-14th centuries. I might be wrong though.
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Post by laudatortemporisac on Mar 16, 2009 12:40:47 GMT 3
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Post by sharshuvuu on Nov 12, 2009 8:27:22 GMT 3
There are also the Kumyk people, mostly found in Daghestan, where they are about 15% of the population. Those who fled from the Mongols to Hungary left descendant who are now indistinguishable from the peoples to whom they assimilated. Their influence can be seen in a number of toponyms and in surnames such a Kun in Hungary and Comaneci (remember Nadia?) in Romania.
Sharshuvuu
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